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jonnypants23
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I know alot of people avoid thees posts about GOD and Heaven but I just want to know peoples oppions about heaven.Do you belive there is a heaven and if you do what do you think its like?

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balerion07
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macroevolution deals with not just that single species but that species entire clade.

For example microevolution deals with the changed accruing in say a common lizard while macroevolution deals with the changed that accrued in lizards to get snakes, komodo dragons, frilled lizards, etc.


I beg to differ.

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ââ/ËmaɪkroÊËÉvÉËluÊÉn or, especially Brit., -ËivÉ-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mahy-kroh-ev-uh-loo-shuhn or, especially Brit., -ee-vuh-]
â"noun Biology.
1. evolutionary change involving the gradual accumulation of mutations leading to new varieties within a species.
2. minor evolutionary change observed over a short period of time.

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ââ/ËmækroÊËÉvÉËluÊÉn or, especially Brit., -ËivÉ-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mak-roh-ev-uh-loo-shuhn or, especially Brit., -ee-vuh-]
â"noun Biology.
major evolutionary transition from one type of organism to another occurring at the level of the species and higher taxa.

As you can see macroevolution by definition does not always produce new taxonomic groups making your previous statement seem quite misleading.

Also Darwin said that if we didn't find missing links all over the place then his whole theory was bogus... so where are they?
balerion07
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Grr. I thought that only happened with word.

MageGrayWolf
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In your own words

You my friend are failsauce.


I get to grr as well. I noticed I accidentally changed all my occurreds to accrueds. Guess that's what I get for trying to type this up on no sleep.

Anyway that's for pointing that out, it doesn't really change my underlined stance on the matter though.

As for the fossil record I will get back to you later in the correct thread Evolution vs Creationism.
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Even if we observe it happening?


How in the world can we observe it when you people say it takes MILLIONS OF YEARS for a fricken stalactite to form ?
MageGrayWolf
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How in the world can we observe it when you people say it takes MILLIONS OF YEARS for a fricken stalactite to form ?


First trying to move this party over to the right thread. Second, what does stalactite formation have to do with evolution?
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stalactite's and heaven i'm confused lol

jonnypants23
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what does stalactite formation have to do with evolution?


Evolutionists say that for a stalactite to form it has to take millions of years , maybe even billions . When the world is only 6 to 10 thousand years old how in the world can a stalactite form over a billion years ?
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Evolutionists say that for a stalactite to form it has to take millions of years , maybe even billions . When the world is only 6 to 10 thousand years old how in the world can a stalactite form over a billion years ?


You still not making any sense what so ever.
Stalactite formation is geology. Evolution is biology. Try to learn the difference.

Your Biblical age is based on a literal interpretation of Genesis. Something that many Christians here have said is a part of the Bible that is not meant to be taken literally.

The scientific method uses numerous independent tests on various rocks that have been painstakingly chosen to provide a more accurate test, each test confirming each other on age, radiocarbon dating being only one of several methods used.
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I believe in heaven and hell, but you think different. So whatever, people who are dead only know. People that are dead know everything about death, weather your life flashes before your eyes, etc. The sins are all in the Ten Commandments of the Bible, there are 10 ways to sin.

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There are millions of ways to sin.

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I'm just jumping in here, but these are my thoughts:

If one is to contemplate what will happen to one's consciousness after its body has ceased functioning, one must take into consideration the following:
There are no longer eyes to receive, nerves to transmit, or brains to process visual data. The same goes for audible, tactile, gustatory, and olfactory data. There would be no memory, and no logic or reason of any type. If the consciousness remains after the body's decay, it would be in a state similar to having one's ears and nostrils plugged, tongue clamped, and eyes blindfolded, whilst thinking of blackness. Similar to a dream about nothing.

I do not hold with this idea, as I believe that consciousness will cease when the brain stops functioning. What happens after that point, I cannot guess. My personal belief, which I have held since childhood, is hat we will loop back through our lives, over and over after we die, although I have no way of supporting this belief.

jonnypants23
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over and over after we die, although I have no way of supporting this belief.


Then your saying there is no point in living ?
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Then your saying there is no point in living ?

The only point in living life is to go to heaven? You don't enjoy living?
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Yeah the only reason why we do most of the thing we do is because of chemical reactions in a brain. When we die all those reactions basically cease because there is nothing to sustain them thus there would be nothing. Kinda like when you fall asleep and dream of nothing.

That is my personally belief.

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The only point in living life is to go to heaven? You don't enjoy living?


Yeah. Kinda. We do enjoy it, though.
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