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jonnypants23
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I know alot of people avoid thees posts about GOD and Heaven but I just want to know peoples oppions about heaven.Do you belive there is a heaven and if you do what do you think its like?

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MageGrayWolf
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314d1
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Yes we can say so. According to Christianity the true God is the Christian God, which leads us to the conclusion that all the others are fake.


And according to science all gods are fake. If there was an omnipowered omnicient bieng who actualy cared about us then why whouldn't he come to earth and tell us? Plus, there are a tone of things in the bible that go against science.
314d1
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Magic is everything we cannot explain, this means that "magic" did not disappear. For many persons everyday items are seen as "magic".
a.k.a. God of the gaps.


I have a nice quote for that
"We will answer this with what we fill all our plot holes with, MAGIC!"
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The fact is that theists use very the "argumentum ad ignorantiamoften". They use logical fallacies in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false, or is false only because it has not been proven true.

The God of the Bible is the one true God because the Bible says he's the one true God....etc. etc. etc. rinse repeat.

Exactly, it's a vicious circle.
314d1
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.... can anyone ban the spammer? And the picture you put, mage, is lol yet true. Whatever happens, they take it as holly "evidance". And the only other thing they can say as more "evidance" is that "God exists becase he does"

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If there was an omnipowered omnicient bieng who actualy cared about us then why whouldn't he come to earth and tell us?

I will use negative evidence. They say he didcome to earth and tell us. Can you prove that he did not?
Reductio ad absurdum is not effective in religion matters, cause religion does not use logic.
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I will use negative evidence. They say he didcome to earth and tell us. Can you prove that he did not?
Reductio ad absurdum is not effective in religion matters, cause religion does not use logic.


After I build my time machine, witch may be plausable in a few millenia....
Other then that no, I can't. But if what your saying is true, then it only came to earth at the time when everyone in the known world believed him. If he actualy cared then he whould come now when people don't believe in him, and when more people have cancer, are starving, ect.

And religion doesen't fallow logic or science becase it was made to explain what the peoples logic and science coulden't explain. Then, they take it as evedince either way. For example, in acient asia some people believed that a giant toad was eating the sun durring the eclipse. So they fired fireworks to try and get rid of it. Of course, the sun always came back, so they took that as evidince that a toad was eating the sun and could be scared away by fire works, witch is not true...
goumas13
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Just as no one can be forced into belief, so no one can be forced into unbelief.
Sigmund Freud

sonicheroes95
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Just as no one can be forced into belief, so no one can be forced into unbelief.
Sigmund Freud


that quote is so true in so many ways.
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1. If god created everything who created god


Nothing did he has all ways been .

2. There is many religions and they all beleve that their god created world, wich God is true then


You must believe that he died for your sins on the cross .

3. If magic existed in time of Jesus why did it disapire (in bible there was many wizards who could create snakes and other sturff)


There are still people who can do that stuff . They are filled with demons , and are controlled by satan .
jonnypants23
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well i believe in God.... and rock on alpha.... lol


What does 'rock on alpha' mean ?
uselessnoob
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I read something in an earlier post about "living to serve god". Almost fell out of my chair laughing at that one.

So you live to serve a being that no one can ever prove exists? Wow. Unreal.

Hey, come over to my place and serve me. I'll even let you eat my table scraps and drink the dregs from my beer bottles as payment. More than you'll ever get from serving god.

thepossum
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Not really. Serving God gives you eternal life in a perfect place. Seems like a fair trade to me.

uselessnoob
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Not really. Serving God gives you eternal life in a perfect place. Seems like a fair trade to me.


Show me proof.

I could email you pictures of my house. It's not perfect but it's pretty nice. I throw away a lot of food, I usually cook too much, so my table scraps are plentiful, again, I could prove this, and I drink a lot of beer, again, this can be proven.

God in heaven cannot be proven.
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rock on alpha is telling alpha to rock on

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