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Cholokid
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Obama deciding to use money from private Americans to buy television time before the world series in order to try to convince Americans to vote for him.

In the beginning of the final stage for the presidential election Obama and McCain agreed to only spend the public campaign money. However Barack Obama backed out of this agreement, causing him to have more money than McCain.

Personally I believe that this is a sign of arrogance on Obamas part,
it shows McCain will stick to his word no matter what, and Obama will say anything to just get elected.

Your opinions?

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Pedspog
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Wait, so he wants to spread the wealth right? Why not donate what he had left...?


If he wins, he can do so much more. (Assuming he does keep his word.)
Agent_86
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Well, everybody is sidestepping the fact that "wealth redistribution" is the absolute basis of socialism...

crimsonblade55
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Well, everybody is sidestepping the fact that "wealth redistribution" is the absolute basis of socialism...


Your taking his words out of context.Just like what seems to be every other Republican I have ever met.I don't get why,but this election has had more biased,ridiculous,and false statements in it then probably the last two combined from what I remember.Also alot of pointless talking points.(could that be considered an oxymoron?)Anyways I really don't see why it matters.If you had a choice to make more money with little to no trouble then would you take the opportunity?I am not going to bother saying it was smart move,because it to me seems like a common sense choice.Its not like John McCain hasn't broken any promises in his campaign,like for instance when he said he would run a clean campaign and then started saying things that were sometimes found to be completely false(not even misleading,but just deliberate lies).I know Barack Obama has run a fairly negative campaign,but as far as I know.I don't think he has ever said anything that was completely false,but instead misleading.Although truthfully I think both campaigns could have been run better.I guess that's just politics.I think I went on bit of a rant there.Now I saw half of those things on T.V. so I may not be able to find good sources of each(sorry about that),but on the issue of "spreading the wealth".That means he wants to simply have those who have alot of money,to pay higher taxes.So that the middle class can afford things that they wouldn't be able to on their own.Also if you want to talk about hypocrites.I think the ads from the republican national committee are quite hypocritical for the fact that they ridicule Obama for not having executive experience,when McCain doesn't have any himself.In fact out of the four of them(McCain,Palin,Biden,and Obama)Governor Palin is the only one with executive experience,but on a state level.Which excludes foreign policy.(living next to Russia or Canada doesn't count)I actually heard an interesting opinion from a comedian who was being interviewed by Larry King who said though that people should vote on a candidate on only the issues.Not even on their intelligence levels or their personalities,but purely on the issues that they agree on.(Also he was not making a joke)Why I am telling you this is because I thought it sounded like a pretty good idea.(except the intelligence level maybe,since it could lead to someone getting elected who is worse then our current president.Also as another note,intelligence and experience are not the same.)Anyways I think I have covered just about everything I can for right now.I'm sure this is bound to be a fairly long comment though.
Zootsuit_riot
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Well, everybody is sidestepping the fact that "wealth redistribution" is the absolute basis of socialism...


And? Your point? Where has Obama said that he wants to turn the United States into a socialist nation?

You're taking his words out of context. "Spreading the wealth" can be interpreted as lowering the taxes on the middle class so they can actually afford to live.
Cholokid
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And? Your point? Where has Obama said that he wants to turn the United States into a socialist nation?


He hasn't said it. But he has implied it. The things he wants such as spreading the wealth and universal health care.

Some of you are probably thinking "Well, whats wrong with those?"

People who earn their OWN money shouldn't have to lose some profit just so those who don't work can get some money. Would you want to give away the money that you earn to people who sit at home all day watching T.V. on a plasma television that they bought with their welfare check?

And universal health care, sure everyone will be able to afford health care now, but it will take months just for those people to actually get help. People will die waiting for their treatments. Yes people die waiting now, but only those who need immediate care. People who have cancerous problems wont be able to get treatment.


If you had a choice to make more money with little to no trouble then would you take the opportunity?


Everyone would. But where is that money coming from? It doesn't just appear out of nowhere. Those who work for their money would have to give it to those who don't do anything.
Zootsuit_riot
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He hasn't said it. But he has implied it. The things he wants such as spreading the wealth and universal health care.


He doesn't want universal healthcare. His plan in no way involves the government funding care for people.

People will die waiting for their treatments.


It seems to work in Canada and Sweden, even if we were going to have universal healthcare. I've never heard about those problems. You're just extrapolating.

People who have cancerous problems wont be able to get treatment.


If you define chemotherapy as treatment...
Cholokid
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He doesn't want universal healthcare. His plan in no way involves the government funding care for people.

Here you go


It seems to work in Canada and Sweden, even if we were going to have universal healthcare. I've never heard about those problems. You're just extrapolating.


Or you are just arrogant and don't truly know the problems.

If you define chemotherapy as treatment...


if it helps, its treatment.
Zootsuit_riot
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Obama has reaffirmed the statement in that article you posted, which is actually several years old. He said that it would be a good idea if we were starting the government from scratch. However, we are not.


Try getting sources that aren't outdated please.

Cholokid
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Okay. Then look here

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Zootsuit_riot
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âIf I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system,â


Thank you for proving my point.
Drace
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I found the thing too cheezy.

I hate the "When I become President, I will..."

champion10
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I agree with Drace that is just a waste of time.

Drace
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Nah, I think it might help him out in the campaign.

kris1027
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I hate the "When I become President, I will..."


They all they say that. And they all get introduced as "the next president of the United States." It is rather silly. But I would assume that saying "if I become president" would make them look seriously weak.
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