Proposition 8 was the bill voted on by California voters over gay marriage. The bill, if passed, would ban gay marriage and nullify over 18,000 marriages in the state. The campaign for the bill turned nasty. Both sides raised over $35 million, the most ever for a single issue bill. In the end, about 52% of the population voted for Proposition 8, thus taking away the rights of gays in California.
What shocked me the most was which group was most responsible for the bill being passed. Was is the Whites? Nope. Latinos? Nope. The Religious community? Nope. They all voted about 50/50 on the bill. In fact, almost every group voted 50/50, except for African Americans. Over 70% of African Americans voted for the bill, thus swinging the pendulum against gay rights.
I find it awfully Ironic that just 40-50 years ago, the blacks were struggling for rights in America. They had to use separate facilities, restaurants, schools, and bathrooms. They were second class citizens. âSeparate but Equalâ was the slogan to justify this racist and nasty system. It took the African American community over 100 years to tear down these walls and be granted equality. Slowly, but surely, racism is dying in America. All races are free to be in the same places as Whites. Any person of any race, color, ethnicity, background, or religion can marry whomever they want. Because of heroes like Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, W.E.B. Du Bois, and thousands of others, minority groups have gained freedom.
Now, gays are fighting the same struggle. Millions of gays around the United States are not allowed to marry the person they love. They are treated like second class citizens. They have to worry about constant threats of violence, isolation of friends and family, and condemnation of religious groups. With the state of things, the gays might as well be labeled âSeparate but Equal.â
One would think that African Americans would sympathize with the gay rights movement. Both have been held back due to genetics. Both have been oppressed. Both have suffered violence, brutality, murder, and hatred. Yet it is now the African Americans who are shooting down gay rights.
African Americans who were interviewed on the topic were seen wearing âObamaâ shirts, hats, or other gear. They supported Obama all the way. Yet when it came to gay rights, a supposed Liberal issue, they were violently opposed. Many interviewees were getting upset at the slightest thought of allowing gays to marry. When asked the difference between the Civil Rights Movement and the Gay Rights Movement, they usually responded with something like, âItâs just differentâ or âItâs not natural.â 50 years ago, it was ânot naturalâ for blacks to have rights in America. So how are gay rights any different?
There is no logic, justification, or sense in voting for Proposition 8, especially in the African American community. They went through the same oppression, and are now the oppressors. I am assuming I will be labeled a racist for writing this. That is okay. I am not a racist. I just seek the truth in the issues. And the truth is that the people who were formerly oppressed, are now the oppressors.
(NOTE: I know not all African-Americanâs voted for proposition 8, so don't think I'm blaming the entire group. I am only blaming those who voted for the bill. I also know that everyone who voted for the bill is to blame for the intolerance. But this is just to point out the hypocrisy on the African American vote).
OOOOOO! Don't forget about the argument that God will reign down hellfire on those countries or states who legalize gay marriage! Watch out Denmark, Netherlands, and Spain! God's judgment will arrive any second!
That made no sense. The Christian Church should have the free will, which gays are trying to take away from them, of disallowing gays from marrying?
We're not talking about marriage in a church. Marriage has to be recognized legally, by the government, in order for it to be valid. The gay couples who got married in the period from when gay marriage was validated to when Proposition 8 banned it, got married in a courthouse.
Two men, or two women do not naturally produce children, and therefore should not raise children. A child needs both a male and female in the household to grow properly as a person. Also children would be picked on, and its inevitable that they develope complexes, issues, and have homosexual tendencies as well, and I don't think that we should promote and encourage something such as homosexuality in our society when it is an unnatural chemical imbalance.
I think j4son already called on this: there is no evidence for the above. And every evidence to the contrary.
As for the teasing, that's a circular argument. When people are ready to accept this will be the time that such social discrimination will no longer be such a troublesome issue, no?
That made no sense. The Christian Church should have the free will, which gays are trying to take away from them, of disallowing gays from marrying?
I never said the Church would be forced to marry gays. Separation of church and state goes both ways, church out of state, and state out of church business. A church has every right to refuse gay marriages, or any marriage for that matter.
I never said the Church would be forced to marry gays. Separation of church and state goes both ways, church out of state, and state out of church business. A church has every right to refuse gay marriages, or any marriage for that matter.
And yet they seem to have a rather large impact on what, seemingly, should be a state affair.
Ya as I was typing that, I realized that the same situations occurred in the past with racial issues. Like when people would shun interracial marriages, etc. Everything takes getting used to. I just feel like its unnatural, so we shouldn't force a kid to be in an unnatural situation when we are not sure of the affects it will have on him or her. But since there are gays out there, we might as well let them live happy lives and get married, but there is no need for them to go affecting other people, especially children, who are young and easily affected in those stages of life.
