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samy
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Well to start out i dont beleive in evoltuion so the fact that other things cant be taught really ticks me off but i just want to see what people think and why.

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Cenere
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The whole idea of this thread is to debate whether or not evolution should be the only thing taught in schools. The whole argument is based off of a perceived weakness in the evolutionary theory or a strength of the christian creationist theory, which we are debating back and forth. It cuts to the very core of the argument itself.

Yes, and discussing the weak parts in any of these, is not off topic, as you do not discuss the topic?

Anyway, I did not say, that evolution is wrong, just that there are parts, like the supereye which some primitive creatures have that point towards an evolution that is controlled to some degree.

As for the life part that comma is the boundary between the univers existing so that any lifeform could live there, and a universe being so much out of balance that there would be no way life could exist.
I am sure there is life somewhere in the universe, just saying that the risk for no life AT ALL is/was really big.

I ve already said that creationism should be taught/introduced, but no more. Just to show the possibility of something have had some degree of control.
samy
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All right, so how would they dinosaurs going extinct be explained according to ID?


Before the flood there was a thicker atomosphere the dinosaurs dies because they didnt have the right kind of lungs, also early humanoids or deformed or mutated humans i say the second but his is a really debatable part if the er debate
Cenere
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Oh, and I am sorry that I might have said something wrong about the topic. I just see it as off topic, when people start to discuss is something is right or wrong, as if the topic was about that.

And a combination between creationism and evolution. Why do you all see to think it is all wrong, that there cannot be two theories in one? Anyway, ill and tired, so do the discussion yourself...

samy
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Let me clear something up though i like to keep an open mind yes i do believe fiercly in creationism but i still want evolution to be taught or else nothing would change everything would still be biased which is so far off from what i want

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Before the flood there was a thicker atomosphere the dinosaurs dies because they didnt have the right kind of lungs,


If they couldn't survive because of the atmosphere, then dinosaurs wouldn't have lived long enough to reproduce. There also wouldn't be so many different types of dinosaurs dating to different time periods, in different parts of the world.
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It's not so much that I think that theistic evolution COULDN'T occur, just that I think that the whole point is religious, NOT scientific and therefore not even appropriate to be brought up in the science classroom.

samy
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[/quote] Before the flood there was a thicker atomosphere the dinosaurs dies because they didnt have the right kind of lungs,

If they couldn't survive because of the atmosphere, then dinosaurs wouldn't have lived long enough to reproduce. There also wouldn't be so many different types of dinosaurs dating to different time periods, in different parts of the world.[/quote]

The time between adam and the flood isnt clear so dinosaurs easily could have made it to many parts of the world before the flood even happened

razaki
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Actually,according to the Bible, it's very, very clear.

Look up the geneologies, which supposedly trace from Adam to Noah, if you believe the Bible.

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There should be a wide varitie of religians taught.

GreatestSoloEver
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Before the flood there was a thicker atomosphere the dinosaurs dies because they didnt have the right kind of lungs,
If they couldn't survive because of the atmosphere, then dinosaurs wouldn't have lived long enough to reproduce. There also wouldn't be so many different types of dinosaurs dating to different time periods, in different parts of the world.
The time between adam and the flood isnt clear so dinosaurs easily could have made it to many parts of the world before the flood even happened


That is a great theory...
Zootsuit_riot
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The time between adam and the flood isnt clear so dinosaurs easily could have made it to many parts of the world before the flood even happened


That's assuming that the bible is correct.
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They shouldn't teach any origin of life because of extremeists but hey should describe all the different theories.

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That's assuming that the bible is correct.


I remember there was once a documentary showing evidence on how the great flood(The one told about in the story of Noahs Arc)it has been awhile since I have seen the documentary,but they showed how there are signs still today,that point toward the world once being flooded.One of the theories about the great flood was that before it.The sky had a much heavier atmosphere in which all of the water came from.This also explained why people in that time live for a much longer time then they do now.The thing is the UV rays from the sun,while they are a source of warmth,and energy.They also cause people to age faster.So if we had a thicker atmosphere.This could in theory possibly allow us to live longer.Although I don't know the full details,so I can't garuantee that all of the info I just posted is entirely accurate,word for word,but overall the ideas may be.
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i dont beleive in evolution but it dosent bug me that it is being taught in the schools. beacuse i went to a private christian schools all my life but the weird thing is we were still taught the theroy of evolution, weird i know, but i also think that other things such as creation should be taught, beacuse we are a land of understanding and freedom but we only teach one idea and then say its the only thing that is out there and discriminate people for what they have their faith in

crimsonblade55
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Uh, no.
People live longer NOW than they did a LONG *** time ago.
Simple stuff.
MEDICAL ADVANCES WHEN APPLIED = LONGER LIFE.
WOOHOO, I LIVE LONGER THAN THE 40 YEARS PEOPLE LIVED BACK THAN!


you do realize I am referring to biblical times and not 40 years ago right?During that time.Many biblical figures were said to have lived for hundreds of years.So unless you have lived to be 500 years or something to that effect,then that argument has no substance to it.
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