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As some of you know, the AK-47 is among the easiest of fire arms to produce, the most invunerable to jammming, and extremely easy to maintain. It would cost far less for the U.S to use the AK-47 than it would for them to use the M-16 or the M4 carbine, both of which need special cleaning kits to ensure long-term use. And they both require weeks of training for soldiers to use them correctly

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The MP44 preformed better than the German Mp40's, Kar-98K's, and other small arms weapons despite it's expensive ammo and sub-standard quality. It was as accurate as the Ak-47 and still gave the Nazis a good 2 years more to defend their fatherland. Mp44's were made because tests had shown that all true combat always takes place below the 300 yard mark. Making conventional bolt-action rifles seem obsolete, the Mp44 was designed as a cross between a submachine gun ( only with more punch and longer range ) and a rifle ( less punch and accuracy , but greater firing rate ). And what they acheived was a great weapon that seemed perfect for combat.

The Ak-47 is basically an Mp44 in terms of accuracy, only far more reliable and cheap. The AR-15 ws probably made to keep the old U.S tradition of having over-ranged rifles. ( which worked very well in world war 1 and the American civil war. )

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ya that is true. The Americans like having wepons with a unresonably high affective range no matter what, that's what(i think) is starting to really kill the men in service

Talo
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What are you talking about? Being able to shoot your enemy is killing US Soldiers? Are you on drugs?

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I have avoided this topic, but I'll say my piece. The AK-47 is great for putting bullets in the air. Not particularly accurately, but it gets the job done. It is extremely easy to learn to use, which makes it ideal for less organized forces. With proper training, the M-16 is far more deadly. So if you ever need to use one and have a choice between the two, by all means, take the AK. As for me, I'll stick with my M-16.

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The reason that we don't use the AK-47 is the same reason that the Vietnamese (an example) don't use M-16s. You can tell if it's friendly or enemy fire by the sound of the bullet. That's why they train you in the army about the bullet sounds, and is why we don't use AK-47s.

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The reason that we don't use the AK-47 is the same reason that the Vietnamese (an example) don't use M-16s. You can tell if it's friendly or enemy fire by the sound of the bullet. That's why they train you in the army about the bullet sounds, and is why we don't use AK-47s.

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Hmmmmm..... That's the best answer out there...

But you could get who knows what on the general market... There would be M16s on there as well...

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The sound of the bullet is obviously not the only reason. What about the recoil? The AK47 has more recoil than the M16.

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recoil is not an issue in urban combat. would you rather have a atomatic wepon with mega recoil or a puny single fire wepon with almsot no recoil iin urban combat? think about it.

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Are you talking about the M16A1 or the M16A4 because I prefer the M4. No the M16 has burst fire and auto fire modes not just single fire. The M16 is not puny, if it was no one would be using it.

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Well if we're talking about the AK series of rifles replacing current weapons used by the United States then both.

Xzeno has a point there, But as i say again, you don't need to shoot anyone over 800 yards away, armies almost always use sniper rifles to do those jobs. Besides the human eye has trouble focusing in from such a large distance.

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Anyway, the U.S. army doesn't seem to be even considering replacing the M16 with the AK series of rifles.

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They never will. One reason. The army only UPGRADES they never go to another existing weapon.

Communist
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Yes, the Russians have shown the Ak-47 can be upgraded to match the newer models of teh M-16.

There is the AKM-47, with a better butt stock, there is the AkS-74, with a muzzle break and a new 5.45mm round to mirror the M16's poison bullet effect, the AEK-971 to match the M16 in accuracy, upgradablility, and completely sweep it away in terms of reliablility.

The amount of upgrades the AK-47 has gone through makes the M16 look obsolete, why not have them in our army? Because the bourgeois tyrants tell you it's unamerican? Bah, that's plain fascism, it kills more people because the expensive M16 is wonderful for the people who own the plants that provide them to the army, and because a lot of people just think the Ak-47 just looks ugly.

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I do acknowledge that the AK47 is an excellent weapon and that the M16 is rather outdated but look, the U.S. military already has plans of replacing the M16 series of the rifles and they are not replacing the M16 with an AK rifle. Anyway, I prefer the M4 over the M16.

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