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Communist
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As some of you know, the AK-47 is among the easiest of fire arms to produce, the most invunerable to jammming, and extremely easy to maintain. It would cost far less for the U.S to use the AK-47 than it would for them to use the M-16 or the M4 carbine, both of which need special cleaning kits to ensure long-term use. And they both require weeks of training for soldiers to use them correctly

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nichodemus
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Well the Ak-47 looks good and fires well in all those shooting games, but maybe it doesn't neet the standards of the US army. Maybe there are problems with the clip size? Maybe you can't fit an aiming scope? Grenade launcher? massive recoil leading to not too good accuracy or usage? Or maybe the US just can't accept the idea of using guns that many of its enemies use? ( I think the AK was developed by the Soviets, I may be wrong though). Or maybe the US is developing better guns? Ak-50?( J.k j.k)

Pixie214
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Well the Ak-47 looks good


That is the most important thing. They were going to use the Kbs wz. 1996 Beryl but decided it was to ugly.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Beryl_rifle_POL.jpg


Anyway I don't understand all these arguments saying it is cheap and therefore will break. It is the opposite. The AK is very cheap but its best quality is that it is robust and doesn't fail.
knight_34
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Well the Ak-47 looks good and fires well in all those shooting games, but maybe it doesn't neet the standards of the US army. Maybe there are problems with the clip size? Maybe you can't fit an aiming scope? Grenade launcher? massive recoil leading to not too good accuracy or usage? Or maybe the US just can't accept the idea of using guns that many of its enemies use? ( I think the AK was developed by the Soviets, I may be wrong though). Or maybe the US is developing better guns? Ak-50?( J.k j.k)


The later rifles in the AK series can support grenade launchers.
The US is replacing the M16 but not with any AK rifle.
I agree that the US military and probably US citizens themselves cannot accept the AK47.


Why are we comparing two outdated guns.
We should be comparing the AK74 and the later versions with the M4A1/M4 Carbine.

Pixie214 is right, the AK47 is cheap but robust. Think of it as economical and cost effective. Cheap implies low quality. The AK does not possess low quality.
Communist
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Might I add that there are now Ak-47's that can shoot around corners. I just saw tat on the military channel and I'm sure i can find an extrenal link to support this.

If i can't, i apologize, i'll stop watching the military channel.

Fritz_Rublehem
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Good idea Communist to find a link to support your findings, it will certainly help your cause.

Pixie214
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shoot around corners.


I'll really need that link. I don;t mean to sound dumb, but how? What do you mean? Does the bulet curve or is the scope on a right angle so you can see round the corner and shoot straight.
Bobitho
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Come on, where is that based from. We all know that when debating over subjects like these you need to PROVE your stance with external information, not only your personal opinion.


my uncle is in the army and he said he saw an Ak-47 completely shatter in front of his eyes for no reason while it was being shot at him over in iraq. Also the accuracy isnt clearly as good as an m-16 or a carbine,i shot an Ak ( i am experienced with guns and i have a very good shot) and i couldn't hit anything over 100 yards. My uncle tried as well(he has all the gun-accuracy medals and stuff like that). And he was only able too hit about half of them. But with a carbine him and I hit all of them.
Communist
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my uncle is in the army and he said he saw an Ak-47 completely shatter in front of his eyes for no reason while it was being shot at him over in iraq. Also the accuracy isnt clearly as good as an m-16 or a carbine,i shot an Ak ( i am experienced with guns and i have a very good shot) and i couldn't hit anything over 100 yards. My uncle tried as well(he has all the gun-accuracy medals and stuff like that). And he was only able too hit about half of them. But with a carbine him and I hit all of them.


It only takes one bullet, you hopfully wont have to shoot the same soldier in the same spot over 30 times.
Bobitho
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true but still accuracy is everything

knight_34
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What about the newer AK rifles? How do they perform.The AK47 is old already.

wooters
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I dont think that we should start using different guns, we could make the AK standard issue for all solderer need to carry, but thats just that much more weight that they would have.

sense
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What about the MP-7???

The new version of the MP-5...

IceDrakeknight
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Ak-47 is made in Russia and M4 Carbine is made in U.S well just as they say in Black hawk down terrorists uses AK-47 and the marines is M4

knight_34
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Terrorists only use AKs because they are easier to obtain and more economical. The M4 is probably difficult to obtain for terrorists and expensive.

iwuzhere11
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The mp7 is a sub machine gun, not worth taking out on the battlefield in a big situation such as a firefight. The mp7 just isnt something soldiers would take out into the field... its more of a police or S.W.A.T. weapon.

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