I agree with Firefly, not because he's probably one of the few who has a lick of common sense, but because the communism ideal is compatible with Christian teachings of sharing with others.
Interesting perspective. I suppose one coudl call that communism. I would consider it more like a tax, not in that it is controlled by a government or anything like that, but because you give a certain percentage of what you have to others. The more you have, the more you give, but the more you keep as well.
How you jump from knowledge to communism is something I fail to see.
He was talking about the tree of knowledge, and how eating from it was evil. Not sure if communism is involved in that, but maybe he meatn Christianity in general.
The tree doesn't mean that you have all knowledge you have it of good and evil. We can tell what's good and what's not. And what does it have to do with comunism?
There's something called Christian communism that some people I know adhere to. First of all, it is NOT Marxist. Communism does not necessarily have to be Marxist. Second of all, it's fairly similar to Christian socialism, just a bit more radical. Generally they accept the economic assertions that proletariat is exploited, and that the ideal society is classless and ownershipless like the early church. Personally, I don't agree with it for several reasons, theological and otherwise:
1. As the Bible has shown, the ideal form of government will be a benevolent dictatorship as Jesus will become the ruler of the world. There will be no "class" between the saved, but the final product will have a single ruler. 2. The Bible has also said that the servants should be obedient to their masters, and that they should endure. It has also said that masters should be merciful towards their servants, and that they should understand their servants. I believe that this is the ideal form of work. 3. Jesus, in his time on earth, did not institute a communist ideology. His message was not meant to be political, as his famous answer to the tax question demonstrates. Even if he did, that is not the main point of his message; salvation was. 4. The difficulties of achieving a classless society with imperfect beings. It may be easier if there is a single religious ideology, but I do not believe it practical.
once you eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you know the difference between wrong and right before adam and eve sinned there as no sin in the world which means you didn't have to know the difference
so if someone was born mentally ill they could not distinguish between good and evil... and they killed someone, is that sinning? would Jesus still love him? or would the retarded child even know that Jesus existed?
And can we not detract from the topic, "what was jesus" ? because the tree of good and evil does not relate to Jesus directly. Indirectly of course because once people ate from it. they understood sin, and Jesus came to cleanse our sins, but there is no argument for a direct involvement from Jesus
yes, but he is unable to distinguish between right and wrong. He accidentally killed them.
The law states that if you are charged of man slaughter but deemed mentally ill, you will not be charged for the crime. (can't be murder because then there is motif, and only god knows what retards are thinking).
yes, but he is unable to distinguish between right and wrong. He accidentally killed them.
Your analogy makes sense, and I don't think God would punish somebody (at least not to cruelly because they didn't understand what they were doing was wrong) for lacking the knowledge that they are sinning. However, with the case of Adam and Eve, sin hadn't been invented until they broke their promise with God, so there had to be some punishment, right? He still loves and forgives, though, that's the important thing.
Um because when a Census is taken, they distinguish between the two 3 things
1. please don't use caps to make a point, that would be like me swinging a gun around and shooting and yelling saying god "iz awesum"
2. There is a difference between Catholics and Christians, I have been both in my life, Catholics believe in baptism saves the soul where as Christians believe in salvation through god.
3. you think they are the same because they believe in the same god? well Judaism is also the same god... so are Calvinists, Greek orthodox, and even Islam. They are Monotheistic and refer to a single deity.
BigP08 I know we had the about Catholics and baptism, trust me, when I was converted from Catholicism to Christianity they showed us the differences.
I know, I was reading the bible, and it said he sold Jesus for 30 silver coins, then I decided to calculate the current price of 30 silver coins (not adjusted for inflation from back then ofcourse) and that was the price I came up with.
But hey 430 dollars is great for a man who can turn water into wine
