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firetail_madness
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This is a reminder to all the people who haven't checked yet, as well as a general discussion on the game.

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ConnerC
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lvl 23 was giants, welll lvl 46 is also but its ebtter

it has gem transmute shrine, mana tap shrine, and thers only 2 types of gems on the level making it easier to build massive pure gesm tehn combine red/lime

im thinking 69 is also the case since 23 and 46 have been

also an armor shrine but its overall better, i could send pic but im lazy

its got 45 initial waves so less bc work

i think thers already 3 sets of twins from waves 25-40 which is perfect, right when u finish the mana path

ConnerC
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found a level that has munch written all over it

lvl id 74

its r/o/l

it has tons of giants

it has giants even in bc mode

had a 2/3 charge mana tap shrine

armor shrine

experience shrin

1 charge flash shrine, use it wisely as a panic button if u get some giants lined up

downsides is thers this one path to the wziard hut that cant be destroyed and its like 12 spaces so watch out for a runner monster with acess to that path, i didnt notice it and after about 10 waves a few monsters where at 20k banishment

ConnerC
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heres my kongregate post on how to score 1q, read it cuz im to lazy to retype

well thers brute force, and old favorite where you get some gems to millions of firepower

however thers more than that

i took out a wave totaling 1.2 TRILLION hp, thats 1,200,000,000,000 hp with a single trap at 50k trap dmg

thats a litttle bit more strategy and skill than brute force, 1t isnt too bad me and much are curently putting out brains together to score 1 quadrillion, my best bet so far is the levels with leaked giants on beyond corruption, super anger 4 twin waves and get them overlapping, triple flash them, hit the slower gems hard and stand teh whole board nearly still, wait a few hundred waves, get 1k-2k multiplier then put down the artillery, id say use a gem transmute shrine to turn 35 pure 100ks into 35 pure limes at 300k with the gem transmute shrine using grade 20s, do the same turning into red, then have the 2 prue 300ks fuze into a 500-550k with the dual bonus added it.

you now have 35 good traps/towers(depending if thers more or less than 20 monst/space) at 500k+, nearing 20m firepower u let loose on those 4000 giants who just went from 1q hp a piece to 1b hp a piece, after 100 waves they should be nice and ready to pop all at once(these 100 waves can take place during the mana pool building, assuming teh anger drops from 60-90 and the building happens from 90-150 then this happens from 150-250, by 300(not 250 cuz firepower will be working on the other waves besides giants, also you may not be at wave 300 bc but its a hypothetical time unit even if thers about 230 wavs) going say 4(shorter path but tower mana is good) mult per wave starting at wave 20 then by 300 you could reach abuot 1200 mult, take the x 1.4 thats 1.7kish. assume u angered the giants with grade 28 20s each to 1q hp thats 4495x scoreish with base of 40k this is about 200m per, 4k mosnters at 200m x 1.7k is 3400b per kill at 3k monsters then boom you got it, now hour wise lets say the 84 grade 20s for anger(if gameinabottle made buyable 10s this would be amazing) is 80ish fast hours, not munch will be troubled on this so he may have to anger 4 waves with 18s/19s rather than 3 with 20s its just as good but messier where my comp has more lag so i cant afford it, speedhack helps like i said but the mana pooling can be done overnight, its about 100 hours in total doing 200 pools per our(1 per 18 seconds) just anger the next 10/11 waves for cannon fodder then sleep well, the firepower making pure 100ks takes aboutâ¦.well lets see buying 36 6s, then transmuting 1 color for about 25 of them, 25 at 60 per is abuot 1500, a whole pack of this takes say 15 seconds, now 60 packs is 15 mins per 100k if ur realy fast but lets cut it to a half hour per 100k, so making 70 is 35 hours, making 2 pure 20s is 4 hours lets say
this brings us to 219 hours, count in 6 horus for building a good starting path of mana farm and mana towers(half that on lvl id 74 but thers only 1 flash, 73 has no giants but 3 flashes and rol but were still looking for the perfect path on armorgames so well let you konw)

assuming you play 5 hours, sleep 9 while u mana or whatever, this could be 3 weeks possibly

as for you dont use math, well the angering forumla is sorta basic where grade is 20, number of times angered u divide by is n, well if you look at it with a bit of calc 2 this is just a telescoping infinite sum, plug in 20 times angered lets say, and using my foumrla(n+1 x n+2 x n+3)/6 is the grade 20 forumla i made using this, thats hwo i got 4495x score using 28 grade 20s

if you say now hold on 28 grade 20s on a twin wave, u wont kill that in your lifetime, well your freind conner knows a way to do 1 quadrillion damage in 10 seconds, yup 1,000,000,000,000,000 damge in 10 seconds hehe now im not sure if you call that strategy, brute force, a secret, or armageddon but its real nice plan

ConnerC
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found a r/y level, im truely in love, it has like 3x the overall hp of lv id 1 but duel freakin gems of the 2 best dmg are sweet, if only there was good shrines, a gem transmute tripling dmg would make up for everything, im hoping i find a realy good hidden level, has anyone unlocked all the hidden? ive only got first 5 and if someone tells me whats in them ud save me some trouble

ConnerC
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i wish allan could get me some numbers on the hps of these things at certain waves, or just get me his save game so i can check

ConnerC
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wow are you serious, not even an overnight post

whats that 7 posts by me and no posts by anyone else in 28 hours

ConnerC
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kidding me, thats what 36 hours without anotehr post? 8 for me i geuss

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Sorry surgery yesterday. Didn't think I'd feel this bad. Anyway 74 sounds like a challege. Thebad memories of 73 stemmed from th higher bc...ok hold on, new GC syntax:

BC => Beyond Corruption
BAC=> Banishment Cost

That's probably why the short circuit built up so quick on you. Good place for 6 x 20k prsm traps.

I haven't figured out a way to abuse the mana trap shrine yet or the armor shrine except maybe after a mega anger but given the (Pts play not speed play) there should be many mega angers. Obviously the beam shrine was a no brained but I think there's a way to scratch out some uber dmg from the transmute shrine but haven't had time experiment yet.

I can't figure out a way that the mana tap shrine is any good (unless your multiplier goes up with the pool increase, do you know?).

Sidenote my right arm is out of commission. I never thought I'd want to be done with a GoE session especially when it's by far my best game. But I really pick a lvl and make it he for a while. Drugs are kickin in but I have some 1q notes. Later.

ConnerC
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well jsut give it time, finish angering 153 at least

realy bsides some grade 12s on waves for cannon fodder, mana pooling and u dont realy need it but a tiny bit of firepower its easy now

just put some big gems on 153

6x 20 would be amazing, my formula is so fast off the top of my head i know thats 54x score on about 70k so about 3.5-4m, maybe 7th gem

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Just found Giant Monsters in lvl #68 in the Bleeding Edge mode which is not supposed to have Giants. I suppose it thus may also have Giants in the other modes that is not supposed to have Giants.

ConnerC
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yes it always means it does, ill try this now, hopefully good shrines if not its worthless

ConnerC
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68 has more twins than i can immagine and 2 FLASH SHRINES, totaling 4 chrages, bad things are the path of the small buildings, prime flashing but short laps so once you flash you must destory the buildings

not a 512 waves btu definatley a q wave

gems are dual but bad

munch
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Hot sweats. Dizzy. Double vision. Headaches. It can only be... GC withdrawal. This is the longest I've gone without playing since June.

I remember 68. I can work around bad gems (unless it's b/g no speed no dmg increase lag ugh). It's the short path from den to hut that's bad here. I used to blow up all the extraneous dens and most of the monsters were redirected to the main den and, unfortunately not to the other two entrances. The timing on the top flash would have to be perfect if it's even possible. If there's a twin wave that comes out one of the long entrances then game on. The other drawback was because of all the extra buildings tower space was limited. 4 flashes is enticing though.

ConnerC
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still searching for that perfect level, about half done with my all hero journey, thus finding what have giants and finding all the hidden

Karsten75
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I scored over 2B in one shot.

SOme time back I posted a link to a YouTube video where the guy wiped out an entire map pf monsters with an Anger shrine. This has been in the back of my mind for a while.

Now before you read the rest, know that I'm not hard-core like Munch and those guys who score Trillions of points. My best on a level ever was 18 billion. I fall asleep if I play too long, so most of my games are rather short and I don't have the patience to supergem ad infinitum.

On lvl 69, where I discovered a hidden cache of giant monsters and where there are two Flash shrines and an Anger shrine, an idea formed in my mind. I Angered a lot of Giant waves to the somewhere between 200k and 300K HP each. Then I built a few grade 16 gems. Once I had over 1,000 monsters out, I used Flash sShrine 1 to damage all monsters on the longest path. Right after that, as soon as I had a full mana pool, I used the other grade 16 gem on the Anger shrine and dealt >55k damage to *all* monsters on the track. This combo killed >500 of my monsters for a +2B gain in score in one instant.

I'm sure you masters of Gemcraft can use a similar technique and acieve even greater glory.

PS. If I had to do it again, I'd have an additional high-grade gem to use in Flash Shrine 2 and I'd get even better results.

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