You know, this has been bugging me for about a year as I pieced it all together through rants in my brain. Ever since the slave ages, kids have not had full human rights in America. The closest to having full human rights was child labor, but that was something of slavery as it had tiny wages. Are children not human enough to have full human rights of freedom of speech, right to bear arms and earn a wages from doing something besides house chores?
I'm having a hard time finding valid point from most of the people on this threat due to the fact that they obviously look down upon children. There's a few people making valid points, but if you view us as inferior it creates a problem.
Why should you get 'rights' when your not even patiant enough to wait?
Wow....just wow. You're saying that in order to be guaranteed Human Rights we have to patient? That'll disqualify half the world. I accept that many rights wouldn't make sense for a child to have, and that with almost every single other right we're equal, but this statement shows just how unequally you view us. Perhaps some of us are deserving of that, but to generalize the entire population of children as impatient brats...
I'm talking age 12/13. There's no way kids that age can handle a job
Again, true. The level of work required in today's society pretty much prohibits any child of that age from actually getting a job. Still, when you look at what they have to go through, physically, mentally, socially, its no small task. Maybe that 12/13 year old stuff is easy for you now, but their going through their own struggles trying to constantly trying adapt. Don't disregard them so easily.
They have a smal grasp on responsiblity
Go look at the average 20 year old in college, then compare it to a 14 year old child. Who, exactly, is more responsible? The one getting drunk every other night or the one who's plodding along through school? Sure, the drunken stereotype may not be correct in most regards to college students, but when it comes to responsibility its not so easily generalized. When you have someone telling you what to do 9/10's of your life, its understandable that many kids rebel against that authority, even if that authority is working for our benefit. When we're first freed from that, yes, we revert. Still, when given the responsibility to govern parts of their own life, kids adapt. That's what animals do. Adapt to different situations. So while you're saying that kids aren't responsible, try taking off the leash for a few years and see what happens.
Black people and women had nearly the same privileges as us
I'm sorry, but no. Don't even try to compare us to those struggles. We have it much, much easier and much, much fairer.
Could you elaborate on what you mean. Cuz im not sure.
. . .I've stated rather clearly my idea in previous posts, and I've been asked to cite and support it a bunch. I deny to do so because I'm thinking of it as a concept rather than a full idea.
I think that certain rights need to be retained to adults (right to bear arms). I'm not saying kids can't show maturity, even more than adults at times, but I'm only saying that there are many kids that are not. I'm sixteen, and I have trouble finding an intelligent conversion anywhere in my age group (except, oddly enough, on AG).
Wow....just wow. You're saying that in order to be guaranteed Human Rights we have to patient? That'll disqualify half the world. I accept that many rights wouldn't make sense for a child to have, and that with almost every single other right we're equal, but this statement shows just how unequally you view us. Perhaps some of us are deserving of that, but to generalize the entire population of children as impatient brats...
Im not saying that all kids are brats and arent patient enough. But you just shouldnt be b.itching that you dont get to vote and stuff yet because you can in a few years. You dont need jobs because you dont NEED to buy things you, dont need to support yourself yet (hopefully). Ive always had plenty of respect from adults I used to debate and talk with adults at my grandpa's coffee shop all the time (I also worked there but not 'really' and they never said 'you dont understand because your just a kid' or stuff like that. Know I do think that once for 18 you magically become smart enough to vote I just dont see why you think its unfair that you cant. Life isnt fair so its good training :P
It seems to me, people are making a lot of generalizations.
Children don't know the full consequenses of their actions. No one does until they are a grown up and they screw something up.
I really don't think that is true for every child in the world. Maybe we have a different definition of child. I think I know the full consequenses of my actions and I consider myself a child, not a grown up.
Why is this question even being raised? Anyone who try's to say a kid is not human deserves to die. Period. Trying take a kid and degrade or push it down to a level that is not human is barbaric and idiotic, evil really. Kids have the same organs, the same traits, the same basic internal functionality as adults do.
Ya know Ricador, this point would be equally valid if you replace kid with homosexual and adult with heterosexual. You should think about that one.
... Kids, also including me, make up the future of our worl, If you mistreat them, or raise them poorly, In future generations the world may be a nuclear fallout wasteland XD therfore if you say no thats puposterous
A human child strictly speaking is a human who is under 18, which is the generally accepted numeral in all cultures, (for some it is 13 (bar/ bat mitzvahs, Jewish culture), 15 (Quinceañera, Mexican culture)... ect. But STRICTLY defining 18 is when a child becomes a legal adult (sex, cigarettes, porn, NOT booze, knives, rifles (no handguns) all that good stuff)
Once agai n, I guess I don't count as a child.
you just MAYBE (I say this because I don't know you in real life) are mature for your age.
Noone knows what the full consequence of their actions will be.
Yes they do.
As alt's argument, that he isn't a child because he is smart, well I don't really think he should be assessing his own intelligence. Maybye if he was an adult he'd understand the word bias.
As alt's argument, that he isn't a child because he is smart, well I don't really think he should be assessing his own intelligence. Maybye if he was an adult he'd understand the word bias.
I'm not assessing my own intelligence; I'm saying that many people are putting down generalizations which don't apply to many children- and I'm pointing out the unfairness and incorrectness of those generalizations. I wasn't assessing my own intelligence, and sorry if I came off that way. And I do understand bias, which is why I don't like Fox News
