ForumsWEPRAre Children Not Human?

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thoadthetoad
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You know, this has been bugging me for about a year as I pieced it all together through rants in my brain. Ever since the slave ages, kids have not had full human rights in America. The closest to having full human rights was child labor, but that was something of slavery as it had tiny wages. Are children not human enough to have full human rights of freedom of speech, right to bear arms and earn a wages from doing something besides house chores?

Really, we're human too.

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fear_the_ibex
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In answer to the thread title, ya, of course children are human. However, Just because they think they are free to go on their own, they are still minors until 18, by which time they have reached the age (not to say maturity) of an adult. Under 18, the parents are still responsible. Parents should control and teach early on in life, but as the child progresses, becomes older, and understands these principles, then the parents should realize that the child needs less watching over.

As for the people who are intelligent and mature like an adult by the age of 14, what can I say. People base their opinion about a person's maturity on your age, just like a book by its cover. All that I can say is suck it up and hold on for four more years.

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Ya children are human, but they are too young to have all of the freedoms. Although most children would tell you that they are smart enough to handle all the freedom, they really aren't. When you grow up you will realize that your thoughts and ideas were illogical. There is a certain amount of maturity, experience, common sense, independence, and understanding of the world that comes with age. Putting a specific age on complete freedom is the best way to control this, as there is no way to know when a good age is for each person, and this puts unnecessary complexity in our system. 18 seems about a good age when people should start to think for themselves. Also, I think parents should be able to control their kids up until they are 18, because this is mainly the time period when they, and their minds are developing, and I think they should be guided, and taught during this time.

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children are (to put it bluntly) too stupid (uneducated whatever i wantedc to say that) to have these responsibilities. Theres nothing you can say that will change that, nor is there anything that can change that but age. That sounds bad, but it's mostly true.

While I feel that is an unfair generalization, I do have to agree that children shouldn't have these responsibilities. In most cases, children are still taken care of by their parents until they are adults, so they still don't fully feel the pressure of being all on their own. This may not be true for all, but for most.
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children are (to put it bluntly) too stupid (uneducated whatever i wantedc to say that) to have these responsibilities. Theres nothing you can say that will change that, nor is there anything that can change that but age. That sounds bad, but it's mostly true.


Not too stupid, just not worldly or educated enough. INTELLIGENCE HAS ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH AGE! It's education and wisdom that increase with age, not intelligence itself. Of course, intelligence has some correlation with age, but it's mostly wisdom and education. It's unfair to place a 'stupid' label on children.
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Most children wouldn't be able to handle such responsibilities. And there is, as stated above, little correlation with intelligence. I am certainly intelligent enough to operate a motor vehicle, and will be legally able to this summer. but I probably want,and I don't want to because I really don't believe that I will be responsible enough at that 16.

Futuro
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Flipski has said it all...

Ya children are human, but they are too young to have all of the freedoms.


Children don't understand the meaning of life. I am talking about 5,6,7 year old kids. Almost all of the kids under 5 don't even know what to do if they get a gun. They are to young to make choices that will effect them. The biggest choice they will have is if they will get the last cookie in the cookie jar.
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Children are human, ofcourse. However, part of human biology is growth, and it so happens that the human brain isn't done growing until one's between 20 and 25 years of age.

So basically, they can't have every right simply because they can't understand or comprehend it fully, since those parts of the brain are still growing. Sound pretty crappy huh? I know... I'm only 21 myself, so mine's probably still growing as well ^^;

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Children don't understand the meaning of life. I am talking about 5,6,7 year old kids. Almost all of the kids under 5 don't even know what to do if they get a gun. They are to young to make choices that will effect them. The biggest choice they will have is if they will get the last cookie in the cookie jar.

Are you kidding me. You're saying you know the meaning of life? I'm sorry, but no. If its a religious response...you have no idea how annoyed I'll get.
Most idiots who are over 20 don't know what to do when they get a gun, and end up shooting someone anyways. The issue isn't whether 5 years should have guns, but if certain people should be allowed to have these "rights" based not upon age, but some other measurement. I don't think civilians should be allowed guns period, I mean, look at the gun crime rate, but this isn't whether or not little kids get to carry guns.

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