I'm just going to throw this out there... Call me crazy, or correct me, but...
It just seems like when it comes to controversial issues that could possibly conflict with certain religious views, all religious arguments are immediately classified as false, untrue, mumbo-jumbo.
Is it not okay to express your own personal beliefs about a certain issue based on what your religion says without being shunned and regarded as a closed minded fool?
Is it not okay to use the bible, the torah, the Koran, or any other religious book as your argument?
Most people as it seems on these forums would argue that you are not allowed to argue with those things because not all people believe in the same religion.
But couldn't I just as easily debunk all of your arguments because I don't believe in the same things you do?
I suppose the point I really want to get down to is why religion seems to be so widely unaccepted on these forums?
True, though I accept the absolute correctness of something if it is proven, and then am not willing to accept the possibility of incorrectness. That's just common sense.
I thought you were agnostic alt? That's a couple of distinct absolutes in there...
I thought you were agnostic alt? That's a couple of distinct absolutes in there...
Sorta. . . . I don't think it's impossible to know altogether, but it's pretty obvious we can't figure out if God exists or not now- and I do think it's possible for a God to exist. . .but it's also possible for one not to exist. So yeah, I'm pretty much agnostic.
Agnosticism has some key notes on the subject of 'ultimate knowledge', in that, it doesn't exist.
So.. you say you'll accept the absolute correctness of something if it's proven, but agnosticism decries the existence of absolute correctness; in that, it's impossible to be absolutely correct - hence the hedging your bets.
I don't totally subscribe to any belief~ Therefore, i don't totally subscribe to agnosticism. Quite frankly, if something is proven to be correct, then it is correct. At least in my humble opinion.
How would that matter? I think it's just common sense that if something if proven to be correct, then it's correct.
How would it matter? Well, you stated yourself that you do not totally subscribe to any belief, but then state that if something is proven to be correct, then it's correct - which, sounds a lot like a belief to me. That seems contradictory.
How would it matter? Well, you stated yourself that you do not totally subscribe to any belief, but then state that if something is proven to be correct, then it's correct - which, sounds a lot like a belief to me. That seems contradictory.
Sorry, let me rephrase. I don't subscribe completely to any stance- like agnosticism or atheism or Christianity.
Do you really think there is such a thing as 'absolute truth', or 'absolute correctness' as you put it?
If I may jump in, I think there is such a thing as absolute truth. But I don't think anybody knows it, or at least knows they know it. So I don't assume that anyone or anything is necessarily correct about everything, but there's probably a right and wrong to every scenario.
Based upon the current laws and understanding of our universe, yes, they're things that are 100% true. Its 100% true that I just posted this. Well, maybe I did, I don't know if some freak accident is going to make me drop dead and stop typing before I post this. Still, in that case this argument would never reach you and these last few sentences would be pointless. If you want to get into a discussion about the universe and how its possible that I didn't post this even while you're reading it, feel free. Back to the topic though...
If I may jump in, I think there is such a thing as absolute truth. But I don't think anybody knows it, or at least knows they know it. So I don't assume that anyone or anything is necessarily correct about everything, but there's probably a right and wrong to every scenario.
If you're talking about absolute truth as in the one truth of the universe that explains everything kinda truth, no, I don't think that exists. In our own puny lives though they're indisputable truths everywhere you look, however when it comes to ideas, they become a little harder to find, which is why we use logic
