ForumsWEPRThis video will most likely change what you see of 2012.

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thoadthetoad
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No, I'm not here to bring you a video made by a common civilian saying "ZOMFG, TEH END IZ NEE4AAR!!!!!!!1!!!1!!!!", instead I'm here to show you a nice video I found while using my new "StumbleUpon" toolbar, with the function "Stumble Video". I chose GUBA.com as my stumbling site, and I came upon a very interesting topic about the mayan calendar. Including the main theory of how they made it, theories about the disappearance of the Mayans, and then of course, the supposed doom of 2012. The extremely interesting 45 minute long show (hosted by the history channel), Decoding History, is right Here!

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HiddenDistance
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the soncpirators with booth (lincolns assasin) were indeed hung


True; it's quite the vague statement though. Off the top of my head, you can apply it easily to the French Revolution too. People have been hung throughout history for a very long time. As for leaders being treated poorly, a lot of governments have been overthrown. Finding overlaps for those two things is not difficult.
GamesArmor
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the soncpirators with booth (lincolns assasin) were indeed hung


His assassins were hung. The movie said that leaders would be hung...
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Well, I would have to say that I still care less about "2012." I don't even believe that the end of the world will be at 2012.

And btw, 45 minutes?! I don't even have the attention span to watch it!

thoadthetoad
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I don't need to prove anything - you're the one that's making the outrageous claims that this is true & not backing it up with sufficient evidence. You show me 1 Katun prophecy that couldn't *possibly* mean anything other then one very specific thing, and couldn't apply to *any* other period in history and you might have something.

For one, don't assume, it makes an *ss out of u and me. I never said it was true. I hinted towards it but I don't adamantly beleive that the world is going to end that day, maybe the human race (by a possibility), but definitely not the world.
Fortune tellers & tarot card readers - if they're smart, don't work like that. They make general, vague predictions that could be interpreted in many different ways

They do make vague predictions, that could easily come true, yes, but, they also tell everyone what they wanna hear. I'm pretty sure that the destruction of mankind, judgement of god and bad times in government is NOT what people wanna hear.
I don't even have the attention span to watch it!

Hence people of the world events section dont' know as much as they think about 2012.
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It is logically impossible to predict the future.

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it makes an *ss out of u and me


Look out, he always takes that phrase as an insult for some reason.
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I didn't seen the Mayan prediction about the computer either. Fortune tellers & tarot card readers - if they're smart, don't work like that. They make general, vague predictions that could be interpreted in many different ways, so that people that love this stuff will twist it & turn it into something that's 'accurate', when it's completely general & could apply to *anything*.


Yes, but no - The mayans did not care about technological artifacts that people would create, only dots and blocks on the timeline - In the end we have no proof at all, and I live for proof but this OVERWHELMING evidence obviously makes a warning to everyone, now let's pause this arguement for the momment HiddenDistance, we can continue it later... Do you or do you know want to heed the warning?

Ricador - it is easily possible to predict the future - If it's right, then that's pretty good but everything they had predicted had come true - EVERYTHING, so think for a moment..... What would you go with:
a) Use that arguement and ignore all of this....
b) Heed the warning with all this evidence and do something about it....

Which one? You decide....

I never said it was true. I hinted towards it but I don't adamantly beleive that the world is going to end that day, maybe the human race (by a possibility), but definitely not the world.


I agree with ThoadtheToad, I had not actually said I believed this, I say that we must listen to them for what could happen otherwise - prepare for what could come, this evidence is alot, so use it as much as possible - it was nice talking to ya folks, good doomsday

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HiddenDistance
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@Toad

For one, don't assume, it makes an *ss out of u and me.


Wow, that's clever. I haven't heard that 300,000 times before.

It's easy to point out though, you certainly aren't shying away from supporting it; making such an assumption *easy*:

it's an amazing subject and an amazing theory! All the evidence piles up, it's not exactly PROOF but there's just SO MUCH FREAKIN' EVIDENCE, IT'S AMAZING!


There's a lot to bite there, dude. They used astronomy and several different theories to make their prophecy, and each one was dead on.


Unless you can prove this to me, I won't beleive you.


If you're trying to show you don't subscribe to the theory, you're not really putting that forward in this thread.

Hence people of the world events section dont' know as much as they think about 2012.


I'll agree with you there. Someone who isn't willing to do even a tiny bit of research & hear what the other guy has to say doesn't really have the grounds to comment on it.

@Highfire:

In the end we have no proof at all, and I live for proof but this OVERWHELMING evidence obviously makes a warning to everyone, now let's pause this arguement for the momment HiddenDistance, we can continue it later... Do you or do you know want to heed the warning?


There is nothing on this subject that I would call 'evidence'. It's speculative garbage. I'm not going to 'heed' some warning about the end of the world; do you know how many apocalyptic predicitons have come to pass? The Jehovah's witnesses have made calls on 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994. Then there's the Y2K prediction; and let's not forget - there were other interpretations of the *same* Mayan Calendar that predicted the end in entirely different years - including one in 2008, that oddly, never happened. I'm totally shocked, of course.

If you can bring something plausible to the table, then we can discuss something. Otherwise, if you're going to tout the same old trash, you can't call it 'evidence' of impending doom.
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Wow, that's clever. I haven't heard that 300,000 times before.


Umm, mate, doesn't matter if it's old, it matters if it actually proves something, when I say prove I mean make a fair arguement, and the Mayan Calender could go off-course, if u give me the link to where the 2008 thing happened I'd believe you, and the Y2K is just from a noob who thought he's cool in doing it, that's clear and boring garbage, I definately side u with Y2K, but every 20 years is actually quite hard to predict, if I say someone would die in 20 years you don't know that, no wait, correction, at 20 years, around there so 17-24 years, I know I did a different span but 'after' usually is what happens before 'before' lol, if that makes any sense

If you're trying to show you don't subscribe to the theory, you're not really putting that forward in this thread.


ok, A bullet to dodge, I can easily do it no offense XD
My debait is that I subscribe to it as a warning, I don't believe it but we should definately listen to it - it'll be hard to find something so well done like this so much, and the astrology part is truly amazing, no telescope or shuttles, not'in', they knew this much, the Serpent shade is a great thing they done as well, try to take out these parts of the debait (Not being aggressive, I don't like to be )

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HiddenDistance
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Umm, mate, doesn't matter if it's old, it matters if it actually proves something, when I say prove I mean make a fair arguement


I don't think it was a fair 'argument'. It was a witless quip, written by someone else, that was used to make him look clever, and make me look stupid; which, it entirely failed to do. If you have sex with women, people will *assume* you're heterosexual. If you argue on a forum supporting the idea that the Mayans were correct or could have been correct about an impending apocalypse in 2012, don't blame me if I, and others assume that you subscribe to it.

I don't believe it but we should definately listen to it


This is contradictory. If you don't believe it, why on earth would you heed it as a 'warning'.

it'll be hard to find something so well done like this so much


Have you read... the Bible? There's a lot of excellent hoaxes out there that reel people in *all the time*.

Besides, I wasn't asking you - that remark was directed at toad. You didn't even respond to anything I directed specifically at you except for Y2k - and it's real easy for you to make the call that it was BS in hindsight. As for the other interpretations of the calendar - I'll get back to you on that; got a doctor's appointment in 10 minutes.

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They do make vague predictions, that could easily come true, yes, but, they also tell everyone what they wanna hear. I'm pretty sure that the destruction of mankind, judgement of god and bad times in government is NOT what people wanna hear.


They do not tell what people want to hear, they tell what makes them more business.

Just because some Very Ancient Civilization(that collapsed) made a calendar and it just happens to stop at 2012, does not the certufy the world will END in 2012. And just because things are going very bad now, does not mean it either. Things were very much worse at times like World war 1, the great depression, World war 2, but did the world end? No. The only difference now, is that The calendar of some civilization ends in 2012.
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woow that whole mayan junk is just about some old guy who decided that he wanted to stop counting on the mayan calendar

Highfire
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woow that whole mayan junk is just about some old guy who decided that he wanted to stop counting on the mayan calendar


I'd say he's 1,000x a better man than u, I doubt you even know what this is about, it's about a civilization with such good predictions that we should heed the warning, and actually 2012 was when they said it was the beginning of a new age, for all u know they could come back - For all we know it could be doomsday, not saying it is but it is a warning of a pre-helper for whatever reason, their 'God' had went away and never came back.... Possibly until now...

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I'd say he's 1,000x a better man than u, I doubt you even know what this is about, it's about a civilization with such good predictions that we should heed the warning, and actually 2012 was when they said it was the beginning of a new age, for all u know they could come back - For all we know it could be doomsday, not saying it is but it is a warning of a pre-helper for whatever reason, their 'God' had went away and never came back.... Possibly until now...


You're right, they were great astronomers and what-not, but just because they were pretty accurate in the field of astronomy and mathematics, does not mean that everything that comes from their mouth is automatically truth.
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I know, but don't try to trip me up with that, I know they have no proof but plenty of evidence, at the least heed their warning because there's so much that came together, think about it, would you prefer to die through proof, or live through heeding a warning? I love proof but in the end this is overwhelming evidence, don't take the chance!

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