"My Grandmother is all alone and I sometimes wonder if she falls ib her flat will anybody here it... I'm joking... she's dead" >.> sorry but I love that quote.
All the trees I have seen fall have made a sound so going on experience I would say yes even though there is no proof.
Sound: mechanical vibrations transmitted through an elastic medium, traveling in air at a speed of approximately 1087 ft. (331 m) per second at sea level.
Your hearing doesn't matter. Ipwnu2day was right. . . .
there is no tree. it doesn't exist therefore it makes no sound.
the tree is a metaphor for... um... humanity. and the forest is... um... nature or the earth and... who the hell cares? lol I just wanted to make a different viewpoint from everyone who insists there are sound... or sound waves. =P
There is a sound but no one is there to here it. But is the question if a tree falls is anyone person there to hear it but what if there are animals the animals hear it unless the riddle includes animals
Yes, if a tree fell in the forest it would still make a sound, maybe a tick on that trre would hear it, now the question is... If a tree fell in the forest and killed a mime would anyone care?
So you guys have really captured the crucial point of this thought experiment. Let's expand the question to what it's ultimately getting at. But I would like to add one point to keep in mind before continuing: The point that sound is nothing but vibrations in the air is spot on. However, the air around us is always vibrating - yet we don't call just any vibrations "sound". When discussing this, consider whether that distinction is purely arbitrary or if there's some objective method of determining which vibrations constitute a sound. If your answer is something along the lines of what humans can hear, then the implications are obvious.
This question points to what we think about an objective external reality. Certainly without perceivers, there is no perception - this point is beyond dispute. But how can we talk about the external world without referring to perception? Is it even possible? If not, does this impact how we think about the external world's "actual" reality? This begins to breach into the Phenomenologist's territory and the philosophy of Hegel and Heidegger (and many others).
It does make a sound, but nobody registers said sound. So, it is a matter of proof? We know it would make a sound, but nobody hears it. a parody on this, A man speaks in the woods, where no woman can hear, is he still wrong? No offense meant by that.
Stop being so idealist about everything. Shees, think materialistically.
A tree fell, it created vibrations. A lot of animals probably heard the sound waves. A human might not have been present and their auditory function did not pick it up.
The end.
Why the fuck does it matter if it constitutes a "sound" or not. Jesus.
Oh hey guys, if I disassembled a boat and put it together again is it a new boat?
