By the way on page 7 where kidon said "look for Charles Darwin on wikipedea or something" When he said something try to take GOOGLE as something
Just to throw my opinion in on Evolution, it has been proven, that is the fact that an organism can mutate and have offspring with different traits. Yet the theory of evolution which is that life started from a lightning strike and is now here hasn't but it does have evidences that point towards it validity.
[quote]Ahh but the proof is the bible, I know that to you it doesn't constitute as proof, but for me as well as the majority of Christians do.
And this is one of the delusions that I refer to. You can't just 'decide' that something is factual or proof-worthy; it needs evidence to support it, it cannot stand alone with the kinds of implacations that the bible contains, as the entire prospect of god, jesus, and miracles are so improbable that the proof for it has to be incredibly convincing - the bible is just a book with words written more then a century after the events took place - not even written by the supposed eye witnesses. It's not reliable testimony.
HiddenDIstance evolution wasn't the term I was looking for
Actually it really is. Your initial question was:
Another thing what about the time between Dinosaurs and Cavemen wasn't that like a 50 million year diffrence? (yes it was) So how did humans come into the world? Someone answer that
The answer to that question, was evolution. Pay attention.
Another thing Hidden DIstance I brought the subject back up for people who only go to the last pageto read what people wrote.
Okay.. well, you're still as wrong as you were the first time you posted it... *shrugs*
samy what made the universes if u say adams what made adams.
Oh I was just answering HiddenDistance's question. I think the big bang did start our universe but was controlled by God. For the record though what made God then? Something HAD to be here for all time whether God or the God particle were not sure.
Evoulution wouldn't create cavemen and I wasnt trying to create an arguementI wrote that for the people that only read the last page then post. And yes there is evolution but not that kind of evolution. Or at least I dont believe in evolution that would make a human (caveman) out of nothing or from an ape.
You can't just 'decide' that something is factual or proof-worthy; it needs evidence to support it, it cannot stand alone with the kinds of implacations that the bible contains, as the entire prospect of god, jesus, and miracles are so improbable that the proof for it has to be incredibly convincing - the bible is just a book with words written more then a century after the events took place - not even written by the supposed eye witnesses. It's not reliable testimony.
The beauty of faith For the record some books were written by eye witnesses and some were not also, some of the new testament was written with in a century which makes it EXTREMELY historically accurate according to the way historians judge a book validity.
HiddenDistance it is a factual account of events look for the bystanders great great great ect... Grandchildren and if you wont do that theres no point in arguing about this with me.
And seeing how God made the bible I think it's pretty bullet proof evidence (there are some who would argue that)
I prefer to think of it as.. "the terror of faith."
Except that there are many instances where the things written in the bible conflict with other historical documents written by scholars in the region at the time.
And again, it might be accurate enough from the time if they were talking about war, or taxes, or leaders and regular historical topics - however, if you are talking about an all powerful being that created the universe, conjured his son into the womb of a 'virgin' woman who then gave birth to a god, who performed miracles the likes the world has never seen before, and never seen since, and then died and came back to life?
You're going to need more then a nigh 2 millenia old book.
If you want to say you just believe it on faith, because you have no proof at all - that's fair. But don't say there's actually valid proof for this stuff... because there just isn't.
Because your extensive study of the subject has led you to believe in other things, right?
I know that wasn't directed at me but I know my fair share about the whole creationism evolution debate. Now evolution has more scientific prowess than creationism but creationism has a fair share of points. However if one is strictly looking at the idea scientifically one must conclude we evolved, however throw a little faith into the mix and viola we were created.
HiddenDistance it is a factual account of events look for the bystanders great great great ect... Grandchildren and if you wont do that theres no point in arguing about this with me.
No, no it's not. I don't have to go looking for these supposed Grandchildren - it's your BS, you're the one that's going to have to provide enough proof to get anyone to believe in this rubbish - not the other way around. As for that whole "only reading the last post" bit you talked about - did you read any of my posts on the subject of the 'burden of proof'?
And seeing how God made the bible I think it's pretty bullet proof evidence (there are some who would argue that)
And since you've provided no proof for god, god could never have written the bible. You don't get it, do you?
If you want to say you just believe it on faith, because you have no proof at all - that's fair. But don't say there's actually valid proof for this stuff... because there just isn't.
The proofs not in the bible well at least not at first, at first the proof is based on PERSONAL experiences, then when you admit God exists the bible becomes more clear, but the proof is not based on any of the five senses.
U ask why not it seems pretty obvious to me EVOLUTION DOESN'T COME FROM NOTHING IT ADDS TO SOMETHING THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
I worte why
Theres no exact proof that was evolved from anything its only a theorie like the thoerie that God doesn't exist (both or wrong btw) Btw HiddenDIstance I have studied it a little but not extensively
