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Cholokid
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Lately there has been many people saying things similar to
"Troll."
"Hey this thread is spam! LOCK IT!"
"Wow that was spam." and


Don't you realize that you are spamming when say these? You all act as though you follow the rules 100%, and never spam. You try to uphold the rules, and take care of the forums. Well guess what, taking care of the forums is not your job! That is for the mods!

If you see spam, flag it! If you see someone flaming or trolling, report it! There is no need to post, making statements that are obvious, and not your place. By making these statements, all that happens is the troll gets encouraged, and they argue with you. They win. Now if you were to report the troll to the mods, they would go in, lock the thread, and warn the troll, possibly even ban him. This would stop the problem. Mods have been given powers to handle those things, so let them take care of it. You should not pretend to be a mod, and call someone a troll, it wont do any good. And it is NOT your place.

As members what we should be doing is just posting in threads that deserve to be posted in, and stay away from threads that are bad. If you see a thread that is bad, don't bump it. Don't say "this thread should be locked." All the does is attract other members to the thread. Just give a mod a link to the thread. But you don't even have to do that. Guess why, because the mods know the rules better than any of us! Whether you believe it or not, mods are on at all times, maybe there is one hour out of the day without a mod on. And they do look through the forums. Mods see the threads that are made, they can handle the ones that need to be locked. Threads that need to be locked should not have posts by us in them. The only post that should be in a thread that is locked or inappropriate should be the moderators end statement.

And when you see spam, don't make statements saying "Wow, there has been a lot of spam." Want to know why? Because that statement is spam! Not only has it become a trend, but it has become extremely annoying. Half the time a member states in a thread "that was spam," They are wrong. Spam is an off topic post, not a discussion about the rules of the thread. Spam is a 1-7 word post, NOT a two paragraph post! If you see a spam post flag it. That way it will be taken care of. There is a reason that the flag option is there. It is not just some decoration. Know your place!

Maybe you will understand what I am trying to say.

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NoNameC68
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Magix, Cholo simply made a point and presented it. In all due respect, you should be more open minded to what he just said.

So basically, Mods tell everyone not to point it out like so, and they end up doing it anyways, and then you notice it, so you point out that they're pointing out the obvious. You're still complaining along with them, but in a way that the mods should be enforcing, not you. lulz.


Cholo is simply stating a problem that exists on these forums in a mature and responsible way. He made a thread, gave it a topic, and stated his thought. To be honest, too many users have been creating threads without any real thought lately. For example, hardly any threads have an OP that is longer than a paragraph and almost all threads created are random questions or silly little games.

My point is, he had every right to make this thread. Not to mention that this is one of the better forum threads out there.

Yes and apparently a troll always wins whenever somebody posts in their thread, no matter what, according to nemo.nonono it's not like that.


I can not stress how wrong you are. Granted, a troll does not necessarily win just becaus a few people post in their threads. But if people respond to them, they laugh and continue trolling. Have you even heard the term, "Don't feed the trolls"? Ignoring them is the best thing to do if you are a regular member!

Calling them stupid or making fun of them won't hurt their feelings and it won't make them stop. If you think that works, you don't know what you are talking about and should stop argueing.

The best way to get rid of a real troll is to simply IPban. Thankfully, we don't get many of those.


Members can't ban people. You missed the point. The best way for members to help the forums is by being responsible. This includes ignoring trolls and reporting them directly to the moderators.

Everyone's just confused because you guys are trying so hard to find the exact definition of a troll, spam, and flaming nowadays. I find it great how one person brings up a definition of each one of those things, then the next thing you know, someone else pops up with a bigger and badder definition believe they are so right.


Nobody is trying to come up with an exact definition. The word has just been misused recently. The paragraph you typed is not related so I won't bother going into more detail.

You guys crack me up. ^^


Not as much as you crack everyone else up. ^^

Do you think you're all that much better by just watching the thread untill it's closed, and making a rant saying how the people that posted in it are foolish? You really are in the same boat tbh.


Think of all the times he watched the troll threads die without making a thread about it. It was a slow and painful process I'm sure. He eventually got tired of watching them feed the trolls and made this thread. Nothing wrong with that. Don't mark him a hypocrite.

Also, false. If they are a true troll they wont make some silly thread and just watch it all day. Half of the people that troll here don't know what they're doing anyway. The only legit thing i've seen here was that forum raid awhile back. That was pretty sick.


Sometimes a troll will pull off an all out attack. But ignoring them does work. Ignoring them wont bear immediate results but replying to them does nothing but encourage them. Did you know that many forums actually state in their rules not too feed the trolls by replying to them? There is a very good reason for that. Ignoring them is the best way to deal with them. If it doesn't work, keep on ignoring them!

Think about it. 3/4 of the people that posted in those threads have <50 posts, so they lack the experience to know any better anyway, so they probably don't even know what a troll is in the first place.


Most of the people who resonded to the troll were familure with forum conduct. Not to mention, most of them were regulars.

Besides, why are you complaining if you can't do anything to stop it. Leave it to the mods?


He is doing something about it! He follows the forum rules and he ignores trolls. He responds to all forum problems such as spam, flaming, and trolling, in a responsible manner. But him doing this won't work if other people keep feeding the trolls or the fire.

Also, Cholo is "doing something" by posting this thread. He is informing others on how people should respond to online problems. You act like he is wrong to make this thread because it isn't doing anything to stop the trolls, but he is trying to get a message across every other user's mind. It's not like you're helping by argueing with him.

Not to mention, you were one of the people feeding the troll! You helped keep the previously mentioned thread bumped up! To top everything off, you replied to the thread more than once. If you replied only once, it woulnd't have been as big a problem.

Take your first step and learn how to deal with a problem yourself before you critisize others like Cholo who are doing the right thing.

Stop being a rebel, you aren't very good at it.
MagiX
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Read it. Don't have the time to reply to all of it atm though.

Stop being a rebel, you aren't very good at it.

A rebel, though? I laugh.
Gametesta
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Stop being a rebel, you aren't very good at it.


It's very difficult to be a bad rebel!
the_manta
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It's very difficult to be a bad rebel!


Unles you're a rebellious one, who fails to follow the rule of being a rebel, which is don't follow the rules.

Gawd I'm tired... I need to get my circadian rhythm back on track.

/ontopic: I've said, "That was spam!" before. In a spammy fashion at that. I did not realize the error of my ways until... really until I saw this thread.

Thanks, El Cholo!
Flite
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I don't understand why there is a war going on in here. It seems pretty pointless.

The opening post did make a lot of sense and I think everyone should take it to heart.

goumas13
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The only thing I dislike here is this kind of posts, so i hope that some will stop doing it.

Muse2223
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WATS A TRULL

thisisnotanalt
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thisisnotanalt
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Yes it was

tony811
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i dont think there is anything wrong with spamming, i think u should let them be and dont worry how they are getting points

Darkroot
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I don't see anything wrong about pointing out spam as long as your comment isn't spam itself.

Like comment on the spam and then comment on the topic.

Perslos
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i dont think there is anything wrong with spamming, i think u should let them be and dont worry how they are getting points


Well, it's a rule type thing... It's irritating and sort of gets in the way of actually having a good discussion. If every one just started posting like that Armorgames would just...Ugg,,,

Spam is just pointless.

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dacer
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pointing it out is basically spam, what an oxymoron.

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