Yes, after much mind debate and different forum-jumping, I come to you, my family, my blood, my screen-name brethren that both like the medeival era AND games, into a war that by far may change... nothing at all, actually!
You might be wondering what the heck I'm talking about, and I still don't fully understand it. The overview of it all is in all of 2 words: Furry war.
No, I'm not talking about one of zoph's stories (bad mod joke), but instead an actual interweb flame war that has gone so far for two internet POLITICAL PARTIES.
First party: The Trolls. Basically, they... wlel, they troll. Now trolls aren't even in furrywar only. Trolls are just jackoffs with nothing better to do than to make fun of other people or just verbally assault one another for teh fun of it. Basically, they're e-thugs, because talking smack in person is dangerous.
Second party: Furries. Well, long story short, Zoph is one of them. Though, from what I remember, she doesn't really think of herself as a hardcore furry or anything like that. Furries are generally about tolerance, and having a good time. Least that's what I've gathered from youtubing for an obscene amount of time and getting into a few flame wars myself, I've found I actually support this group purely because they make the most sense.
The war? What's it about? Oh it's simple. Near nothing, of course! It's all just two people yelling at each other. They just have opposing views and what do they do because of it?
Get over them and make love, peace, and overall better the world!
Just kidding, they fight and flame like /b/tards.
Now then, here's my views on the subject from both points of view:
Troll View: Okay, furries are different from me and have different sexual habits..... kay, I watch porn on a daily basis so I really shouldn't care but I do anyways!
Furry View: Trolls are meanies who want nothing but to eff with me, so instead of just ignoring them and reportning them I'll...... FLAME BACK!
Neutral View: well both of the stereotypical sides are pretty much hypocrites. The furries are supposedly supposed to be all about tolerance or something while they don't tolerate the trolls or their habits, and the trolls shun the furries due to their perfectly JUSTIFIED hate for humanity and "erverted" ways. Hey troll, what's that I see in your bookmarks? ... is it... it can't be.... PORN?! YOU SHOULD DIE IN A FIRE ON A STAKE!!!!
Now then, what're your views on the subject? Please be good about this and not just f*ck around, please?
furry, furry i dont like saying teh word furry, cant we call them fuzzys?
It's doable, but furries or furs are sort of a default term.
and tree (doing) is just plain messed
that would make you um... into plantialigy or somthing
Dendrophilia, actually. Translates to "love of trees". Is also sometimes used about treehuggers who don't go to the sex part but just really loves trees.
Considering you said that after my "Did I mention that there are anthro plants in the furry fandom? They're rare, though." I'm gonna guess that needs explanation...
Not what I meant. I meant people who have characters, 'sonas, who are anthro plants. (A 'sona is, as Thoad said earlier, a representation of yourself - some people like to be associated with plants, for some reason.)
When it comes to plants, I don't think people really wanna rape them... The other way around, that's a different matter. But we're really getting off topic. Want me to fetch the Paraphilia thread and unlock it so you can be grossed out by a wider variety of things?
you take to long to type zoph, im like the ninja master!
I know! But in my defense, look at the length of my posts compared to yours. :P
and i hate hippys.. wait, are hippys furrys?
NOt typically, no, though there's probably some furry hippies out ther...... That came out wrong.
a person, esp. of the late 1960s, who rejected established institutions and values and sought spontaneity, direct personal relations expressing love, and expanded consciousness, often expressed externally in the wearing of casual, folksy clothing and of beads, headbands, used garments, etc.
I don't think hippies are demented furrys.
think YOUR tree
Well then, you could always avoid them and in the end, you can use your legs to run away. Or a car.
Just because you have something in common with a group of people, it doesn't mean you're one of them.
Which is where I stand in relation to the furry community.
Really, I consider it to be more of a niche art thing than something good or gross - if a person artistically expresses themselves by drawing some of the non-PG13 furry art, then that's how that person expresses themselves and I don't think it's something that should be rejected or looked down on. Quite frankly, looking down on how someone artistically expresses themselves is something I consider to be meaningless bastardity. But who knows, maybe I'm a naive kid who's tolerant because he hasn't seen the world enough.
As for bestiality and dendrophilia and stuff. . .I consider it weird and gross - the people who do that are obviously happy with it, and it deserves a 'to each his own' dismissal imo.
As for pedophilia. . .that's different. That IS despicable and deserves harsh, cruel, perhaps unusual punishment. Unless, since its a mental disorder, they invent pills to treat it. If they act on the urge to pedophile-ize, that's inexcusable and does deserve cruel and unusual punishment.
Some furries have anthro plants as personas. So they like forcing themselves on plants? That's like plantialigy or something. No, they like to associate themselves with plants. And the correct word for what you were trying to say is dendrophilia, which means love of trees. Kinda like treehuggers, except treehuggers usually don't wanna go to the sex part.
Quite frankly, looking down on how someone artistically expresses themselves is something I consider to be meaningless *******ity. But who knows, maybe I'm a naive kid who's tolerant because he hasn't seen the world enough.
I really hope you keep that view. I really do.
indeed, and @sses got censored.
Oh, lol. I can usually guess what gets censored, so it bugs me when I can't. X)
i dunno about hardcore furrys, they just creep me out.
Hardcore furries creeps casual furries out occasionally, so... Yeah.
As for bestiality and dendrophilia and stuff. . .I consider it weird and gross - the people who do that are obviously happy with it, and it deserves a 'to each his own' dismissal imo.
Rule of thumb: If it doesn't hurt anyone you can do it. That includes other humans, yourself, and animals. And is why there are laws against pedophilia and zoophilia (though those aren't completely comparable) but not against dendrophilia or the fetishes that involve two (or more, or less) consenting adults. But another rule of thumb is that you shouldn't do it in public, because normal people are easy to gross out. Which is awesomely fun and you should be glad you know me on a PG13 site. >
I'm not sure whether I should be laughing or locking myself in a fallout shelter. . . .
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I really hope you keep that view. I really do.
I just think it seems fair to the artist. You can't please everyone with art, but if you please yourself in your expression then I don't see anything wrong with it - though critique is still important so you can improve in your art, whatever it may be.