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IPwnU2Day
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Euthanasia is the killing of someone with a condition or birth defect or retardation that makes them extremely different from other people. I don't mean skin color or appearance, I mean sever mental or brain problems.

Do you think that the murder of these people is ethical or not? And to whom should it apply?

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Talo
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Euthanasia is Murder. You are taking a life before it's natural death. Life takes care of it's self. If you try to play God, you will go to heck.

ligaboy
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That's what Ipwnu is implying. Nobody has a set amount of inteligence. It's just if you are born with some sort of defect, then...

It just may be harder for some people.

Green's already said it for me.



I was saying it sarcastically, I always forget that sarcasm doesn't work online
the_manta
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I was saying it sarcastically, I always forget that sarcasm doesn't work online


Sorry, I wasn't talking directly to you. It was a general statement.
Green12324
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Euthanasia is Murder. You are taking a life before it's natural death. Life takes care of it's self. If you try to play God, you will go to heck.


I thought that...

"Children can't survive on their own until the age of 5 or 6. I think you should beable to abbort up until age 2." - Talo in the Teen Pregnancies thread, page 21.
IPwnU2Day
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Some quotes from Wikipedia about this. It's their first article if you google "genetics and intelligence".

the heritability of IQ rises through childhood and adolescence, peaking at 0.68 and 0.78 in adults, leaving the overwhelming majority of IQ differences between individuals to be explained genetically.[13]



The heritability of IQ measures the extent to which the IQ of a child is measurably influenced by the IQ its parents. As IQ is a quantifiable phenotype, one can estimate the expected IQ of child using the equation \\hat y = \\bar x + h^2 \\left ( \\frac{m + f}{2} - \\bar x \
ight), where

* \\hat{y} is the expected IQ of the child,
* \\bar{x} is the mean IQ of the population to which the parents belong,
* h2 is the heritability of IQ,
* m and f are the IQs of the mother and father, respectively.[28


about 56% of the variance in IQ scores is genetic.


I think that sums it up quite nicely.
patriotboy1
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I'm not really sure if it's right or wrong because the chances or that the ill person will have an unhappy unfulfilling life on the other hand I believe everyone has a right to live except serial killers, rapers ect...

Talo
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I thought that...


Green, either contribute to the topic or don't post at all. If all you are going to do is flame, we don't need you here.
patriotboy1
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Then everyone should get a mandatory IQ test at the end of elementary school and if they don't get over 75 then they get euthanized.

Not elementary school at the end of THEIR schooling they should have a IQ test and if they fall below 60 IQ...And a athletics test.


You think just like a Nazis IPwnU2Day except the torture Jew part...



Which I agree with the Nazis ideal to a certain level. Because think about it people who makes themselves suffer and to others do you think they should live?


p.s. I'm not totally sure if I believe in everything I said since I'm only 14. (I know that may be confusing)
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p.s. I'm not totally sure if I believe in everything I said since I'm only 14. (I know that may be confusing)


if you do not know whether you believe something or not, than just dont post it.


Not elementary school at the end of THEIR schooling they should have a IQ test and if they fall below 60 IQ...And a athletics test.


why should you not be allowed to live if you are not smart or athletic enough?
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Then everyone should get a mandatory IQ test at the end of elementary school and if they don't get over 75 then they get euthanized.


The IQ has been deemed inaccurate and redundant for a long time.

Anyway, as far as Euthanasia is concerned I think it should only be available for terminal or elderly people who ask for it. Or when parents have a child born with something really wrong with them. Like one of the trisomy illnesses that are less forgiving than down syndrome for example.
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I do not believe that a low IQ should warrant euthanasia. I don't like Euthanasia at all.

Though people have a choice and can make choices for themselves. Euthanasia should not be taken lightly and should be something of a last resort.

elderly


I don't think people who are simply old should go for euthanasia.

Personally I would not opt for euthanasia.
Xavier1
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I think once you're around 80 or so if you want to end it then why not...

knight_34
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I think once you're around 80 or so if you want to end it then why not...


Well, a person being 80 does not want them to follow the path of Euthanasia. A person who is emotionally devastated, should not give up easily. For people who are terminally ill, they also should not simply kill themselves without trying.
Xavier1
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It's not about that. Some people feel they have lived a long enough life and don't want the humiliation of rotting away while people feed and change them.

knight_34
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It's not about that. Some people feel they have lived a long enough life and don't want the humiliation of rotting away while people feed and change them.


Hmm.. Well, there aren't many people like that. Though they can get euthanasia if they want to. I think more people would rather try to slow down aging or keep themselves healthy instead of killing themselves.
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