ForumsWEPR[necro] Why you don't believe in God?

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Zep0Q
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Before you comment, please, read everything, I'm sure that after you read, your life will be changed.

In the following sentences I will explain how stupid is to not believe in God, and I'm gonna use logical thinking and science.

Either "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang" , witch is impossible, because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.

God made this world, by this world I mean time, space and matter, so if God made this world, He lives outside of time, space and matter which means He's eternal, omnipresent and all-powerful.

For those of you who say that the big bang made the universe, I have this sentence: Nothing is the cause of it's own existence.
This doesn't apply to God, because if He doesn't lives in time, He didn't had a beginning, He always existed.
If the universe always was then, we could not reach this moment in time, if something is trapped in time, that means it had a beginning.

Every change that happens everywhere in the universe it's more closer to destruction.
Second law of thermodynamics:
The energy available after a chemical reaction is less than that at the beginning of a reaction; energy conversions are not 100% efficient.
The disorder in the universe always increases.
With each change in form, some energy is degraded to a less useful form and given off into the surroundings, usually as low-quality heat.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same, the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy.

If God didn't made life, then how did non-life, became life?
As I said, nothing is the cause of it's own existence, life comes from life, your parents were alive when they made you.

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.

What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil, well here's 2 pictures with a cawboy's leg fossilized, enjoy
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http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-outside.jpg
2#
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-inside.jpg

After all I have showed you, now I'm gonna say that you should accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, because He died for our sins and He didn't ask something from us, just to love our brothers and sisters and to believe in Him.
Anyone can ask for forgiveness as long as he or she is not dead, no matter what they did God can forgive them, if they repent from theirs sins and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
God is mercyful and just, His justice is not denyed by His mercy and this is the reason why God sent His Son Jesus to pay the price for us.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

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thisisnotanalt
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NURV, THERE DID NOT HAVE TO BE A CAUSE FOR THE BIG BANG AS WE KNOW

If there is no time, there is no law of causation, therefore no scientific, logical or technical need for a cause.

RaptorExx
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Stalemate? What is this, chess?

Um, no, it's a topic;
to be or result in a stalemate or standoff.

I'm just saying you guys keep asking the same question over and over, in a way...since everyone's demanding proof of God's existence and an understandable equation of how matter can be formed at the beginning of everything.
thepossum
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It matters not if there is a need for a cause, there still was one.

thisisnotanalt
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It matters not if there is a need for a cause, there still was one.


No, it means that there may have been one. D:
Nurvana
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Matter is an inanimate substance. As far as we can tell, it can't think. If it can't think, then it can't decide.


Very nice trying to change the subject. What made the matter from other universes?

Not too many credible scientists say the big bang is bogus. I think some astrophysicists are able to calculate the way matter moves at 0.1 seconds after the big bang.


Don't think, know.

[quote]If there is no time, there is no law of causation, therefore no scientific, logical or technical need for a cause.[quote]

Then why does there have to be one for God?
thepossum
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^Exactly. If there doesn't have to be a cause for the Big Bang, why does there have to be one for God?

deserteagle
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So once again, did the matter from those other universes just decide to exist?

Matter is an inanimate substance. As far as we can tell, it can't think. If it can't think, then it can't decide.

Very nice trying to change the subject. What made the matter from other universes?


>_< Just when I thought people can only get so stupid....

to answer your question The matter from other universes got siphoned into others. "Matter can not be created nor destroyed, only transformed into energy" remember your thermodynamics...
Kasic
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Exactly. If there doesn't have to be a cause for the Big Bang, why does there have to be one for God?


Why does there have to be no cause for god? Everything has a cause, whether or not we can find it.
SilentQ
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remember your thermodynamics...


FIRST AND SECOND LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find any better videos, so don't pay attention to the Star Wars pics on the vid >.>
thepossum
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To Kasic: You weren't paying attention. The argument thisisnotanalt was making said the Big Bang didn't need a cause, so my argument was why does God need a cause?

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By the way you have no proof that god exists and god controdicts evolution but we have proof of evolution see its the difference between knowledge and belief knowledge is when you know something to be true and you have proof to back yourself up while belief is when you think believe something is true and you have no evidence of it.

hope you enjoyed my feedback. By the way I'm an Atheist.

Nurvana
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By the way you have no proof that god exists and god controdicts evolution but we have proof of evolution see its the difference between knowledge and belief knowledge is when you know something to be true and you have proof to back yourself up while belief is when you think believe something is true and you have no evidence of it.


God doesn't contradict evolution, and there isn't really any "knowledge" of evolution.
thepossum
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The universe is evidence of God.

MageGrayWolf
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The universe is evidence of God.


Care to expand on that?
Nurvana
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Because it seems very unlikely that something so complicated would come about from such a random act.

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