ForumsWEPR[necro] Why you don't believe in God?

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Zep0Q
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Before you comment, please, read everything, I'm sure that after you read, your life will be changed.

In the following sentences I will explain how stupid is to not believe in God, and I'm gonna use logical thinking and science.

Either "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang" , witch is impossible, because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.

God made this world, by this world I mean time, space and matter, so if God made this world, He lives outside of time, space and matter which means He's eternal, omnipresent and all-powerful.

For those of you who say that the big bang made the universe, I have this sentence: Nothing is the cause of it's own existence.
This doesn't apply to God, because if He doesn't lives in time, He didn't had a beginning, He always existed.
If the universe always was then, we could not reach this moment in time, if something is trapped in time, that means it had a beginning.

Every change that happens everywhere in the universe it's more closer to destruction.
Second law of thermodynamics:
The energy available after a chemical reaction is less than that at the beginning of a reaction; energy conversions are not 100% efficient.
The disorder in the universe always increases.
With each change in form, some energy is degraded to a less useful form and given off into the surroundings, usually as low-quality heat.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same, the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy.

If God didn't made life, then how did non-life, became life?
As I said, nothing is the cause of it's own existence, life comes from life, your parents were alive when they made you.

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.

What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil, well here's 2 pictures with a cawboy's leg fossilized, enjoy
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http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-outside.jpg
2#
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-inside.jpg

After all I have showed you, now I'm gonna say that you should accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, because He died for our sins and He didn't ask something from us, just to love our brothers and sisters and to believe in Him.
Anyone can ask for forgiveness as long as he or she is not dead, no matter what they did God can forgive them, if they repent from theirs sins and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
God is mercyful and just, His justice is not denyed by His mercy and this is the reason why God sent His Son Jesus to pay the price for us.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

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thisisnotanalt
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What made the stars?


They just clumped together and assembled. Molecules building up on each other until they form a nuclear dynamo. Still today, more stars are being made in nebulae around the Univers.
Nurvana
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The molecules just decided to exist?

numbauno
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No, instead they had a crazy invisible force that brought them into existence when it was bored :P

Nurvana
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Hmm, yes that's completely plausible.

RaptorExx
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How can you believe in something with absoulutely no scientific evidence or evidence in general?

By believing?
made either by crackpots or to create fear or hope in people's minds.

Perhaps, as no one can say for sure that those who created any religion did not have access to drugs, or weren't simply trying to gain control of the commonfolk, but it goes the other way as well.
They just clumped together and assembled. Molecules building up on each other until they form a nuclear dynamo. Still today, more stars are being made in nebulae around the Univers.

Then they're just going to say what makes a nebula -_-'. Which I don't know, myself, I'm not a cosmologist/physicist/etc., at the moment.
The molecules just decided to exist?

Well it depends on people's views. Either they existed already and they've just always been there [like God, I guess], or they were created from a spontaneous explosion of matter-forming goodness. Or a God made them.
Those are the only explanations I can think of =\\.
MageGrayWolf
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The molecules just decided to exist?


Actually on a quantum level that may just very well be the case.
deserteagle
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yeah, that sucks for you because the majority of scientists say that the big bang theory is impossible


What kind of credible scientists will such a thing? Maybe at The Pope's Holy Research Academy will you find a scientist who says that. >_<

What made the stars?

You know what I'm going to say.

The molecules just decided to exist?

You could go ask some.....
thisisnotanalt
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The molecules just decided to exist?


No, they existed from the Big Bang/creation of the Universe or whatever and clumped together to form stars overall.
Nurvana
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No, they existed from the Big Bang/creation of the Universe or whatever and clumped together to form stars overall.


If the big bang existed, what caused that?
deserteagle
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If the big bang existed, what caused that?


how many times do I have to explain this people!?

Matter from other universes came together in a single spot. The energy level got so high that exploded.

simplified version
Nurvana
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how many times do I have to explain this people!?

Matter from other universes came together in a single spot. The energy level got so high that exploded.

simplified version


So once again, did the matter from those other universes just decide to exist?

Yeah, that's where you find scientists that say the big bang's bogus; Like the Big Book of Explanations for the Big Bang is where you find a "Religion Scientist"
deserteagle
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So once again, did the matter from those other universes just decide to exist?


Matter is an inanimate substance. As far as we can tell, it can't think. If it can't think, then it can't decide.

Yeah, that's where you find scientists that say the big bang's bogus; Like the Big Book of Explanations for the Big Bang is where you find a "Religion Scientist"


Not too many credible scientists say the big bang is bogus. I think some astrophysicists are able to calculate the way matter moves at 0.1 seconds after the big bang.
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It matters not whether matter can think, but how was it made? And I know the Law of Conversation of Matter.

RaptorExx
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You guys are asking for exact, proven proof of how the universe existed, which no one can explain, just like the opposing side is asking for exact, proven proof that God exists, like Him actually coming down and showing Himself to us, which probably won't happen.

Stalemate, I think, with what this current conversation is focusing on.

thepossum
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Stalemate? What is this, chess?

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