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I try not to rely on Soviet statistics. Their propaganda departments made so many statistics up, and a lot of the rest of the infrastructure was pretty inefficient. If anything if they acknowledged any deaths at the time to famine, they would be fairly low numbers. They tended to exaggerate production numbers and publish them for the public, or just erase or alter other documents to make the nation seem greater than it was.

But I'd have to say Stalin was far worse. Russia had one of the greater populations of the time, so famine would affect more citizens. I think another thing to consider is how the majority of deaths attributed to Stalin, at least the famine related ones are mostly from gross incompitance, and Hitler did his killings systematically. I'm not sure which way is worse.

Their propaganda departments made so many statistics up

Proof?

According to Soviet archives its around 3-5 million.

How about the fact they reported a 0% crime rate for about half a century despite the fact Russia is pretty much run by gangsters.

and you believe them? theyre just covering most of the deaths up.

Proof?

I believe Hitler was a better leader. He was more intelligent and more charasmatic. It's true both of them used scare tactics to control the majority of the population, but Hitler was also loved by a lot of Germans also because he gave them hope. (For those wanting proof I will not provide it seeing that my arguement is common knowledge)

Personally, I think that while Hitler was a scarier person, he commanded less respect. When Stalin died, every person in RUSSIA (largest country in the world) had to kiss his grave (a lot of people). SO my vote goes to Stalin.

They HAD to kiss his grave because they were forced to. Stalin was not loved. Also Stalin was worse than Hitler. He killed around 14million of his own countrymen.

Actually, Stalin is still liked in Russia. As ironic you might find it..

......I blame the history books.

Mmm...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7802485.stm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG9rbkSNYAQ

I believe Hitler was a better leader. He was more intelligent and more charasmatic.

would you believe the killers?

The Worst genocides of the 20th Century

Wow, what a who's who of the bloodiest bas#@&*s of the 20th century!

I thought that Mussolini had killed more since the citizen's hanged him. I thought that Stalin had killed more people than Hitler but not about twice as many!
Check out Idi Amin, remember, he was a cannibal, gross!

I thought that Mussolini had killed more since the citizen's hanged him. I thought that Stalin had killed more people than Hitler but not about twice as many!