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patriotboy1
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(I don't think this topic was made yet).

I made this topic because people in the "Hitler vs Lenin" topic said they would have preferred this (Hitler vs Stalin).

So post what you think... I think Hitler was the better and smarter man.

http://www.noshame.org/scripts/yancey050429.htm

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=77830

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GoblinD
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He tried to make that bit of land for them as a counter to Isreal. He was quite upset that Isreal was friends with the US. He wanted to keep the Jews under his control. Not kill them all like Hitler did, just keep them where he could still influence them.

He did the central Asia things for a lot of reasons but I think this should prove he acted against Jews for other reasons then Antisemitism.
For Israel, he was a big fan of Israel because Israel for the start was in the soviet side of the Cold war. Because of the war on Britain and all. USA didn't really hate Israel at the time but Israel was very far from USA's side back then. Hell socialism was very strong here back in the days.
Jefferysinspiration
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Sentenced. He was no warrior


Then surely Hitler was worse, 500,000 is nothing in comparison to six million.
Armed_Blade
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Then surely Hitler was worse, 500,000 is nothing in comparison to six million.


By 'sentence' I mean if someone were to ask you about a group of 30 people who did something and you to say 'Kill them all!'
Hitler started a war, he didn't sit in an office telling his troopers which Jews to gas and which ones to not. He just started a hate battalion that did a bunch of killing.

Also, 500,000 was the lowest number I could find. If you were to compare the people that may have died due to Hitler's actions versus those who may have died due to Stalin's, Stalin's figures are considerably much higher than 6 million. In terms of the number of lives he was able to ruin, I would say his figures are still much higher. Hitler started a 6 year war, Stalin started a lifetime of oppression and continuous fear of one's government. Not only that, but his legacy continued after his death.

I'm picking Stalin just because of the course of events. I'm not saying he was a more evil/deranged person, for, if you were to ask me if Hitler won the war/whatever, he surely would have done more damage. It's just that he was stopped [By Stalin, none the less, how ironic lol].
Jefferysinspiration
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Yeah i get what you mean.

I still think Hitler was a lot smarter though.
& 100% more evil.

I'll need to look into stalin some more.

iMogwai
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What's this about anyways? Who did the most harm? Who was the most evil? 'Cus Stalin probably did a lot more harm, and much less good, but his killing was mostly out of fear and paranoia, while Hitler's reasons were because of greed and hate. He wanted to Germany to be as powerful as possible, and he wanted the Jews (amongst others) dead, and all the deaths he caused were mainly for those two reasons. That's why I think Hitler was more evil, but Stalin more harmful.

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I still think Hitler was a lot smarter though.
& 100% more evil.


Oh, defiantly. The man was a genius. Too bad he didn't study medicine or physics or anything, of all things he picked art.

I'll need to look into stalin some more.

He was also mean to his army. Albeit having the largest standing army in the world, the main slogan of the army became 'Not a step back!' due to his new postage stamp and his orders of execution/trials to any general or troop that retreated in combat [and of course to any that deserted]
iMogwai
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He was also mean to his army.


Some say he had more soldiers than guns, so his soldiers were paired up and given one gun per pair, so that when one of them died, the other could grab his gun and keep fighting. It's likely this is a rumor, but considering the size of their army and the state their country was in, it doesn't seem completely unbelievable.

One major difference between the two is that Hitler loved his country and his people, and wanted what was best for Germany. Stalin was just paranoid and selfish.
Jefferysinspiration
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One major difference between the two is that Hitler loved his country and his people, and wanted what was best for Germany. Stalin was just paranoid and selfish.


But he wasn't German, he was Austrian - this annoys me.
iMogwai
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But he wasn't German, he was Austrian - this annoys me.


Right, but he moved to Germany when he was three. I guess growing up in Germany made him feel more German than Austrian... Or maybe he just used that "Germany FTW" stuff to justify his own lust for power. Either way, he was a bad, bad boy.
Jefferysinspiration
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Sorry, the monty python fan in me made me do it:

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll12/Shonaf08/messiah_300x209.jpg

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Some say he had more soldiers than guns, so his soldiers were paired up and given one gun per pair, so that when one of them died, the other could grab his gun and keep fighting. It's likely this is a rumor, but considering the size of their army and the state their country was in, it doesn't seem completely unbelievable.

It's not a rumor. Additionally, he gave orders for the officers to shoot soldiers that turned around from the front.
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Some say he had more soldiers than guns, so his soldiers were paired up and given one gun per pair, so that when one of them died, the other could grab his gun and keep fighting. It's likely this is a rumor, but considering the size of their army and the state their country was in, it doesn't seem completely unbelievable.

I'm pretty sure that's true. One guy carried the rifle, the other carried the ammo. Stalin knew he had more men than the Germans had bullets.

But he wasn't German, he was Austrian - this annoys me.


He felt that Austria had been unlawfully divided from Germany, that's why he wanted to unify it. He was driven by the belief that Germany owned most of Europe.
indie55
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One guy carried the rifle, the other carried the ammo.

I think the guy with the rifle got ammo too.
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I think the guy with the rifle got ammo too.

Well yes he got a handful of shots, but the rest of it was on the other guy (a pouch of 30 single shot rounds total was standard when ammo was scarce, although records weren't kept well, according to this rather unreliable source, but there isn't much info on the topic:). When the guy with the gun needed more, he'd ask his partner for the ammo. If either guy got killed, the other would take his partner's stuff. If they were lucky and lived long enough to run out of ammo, they'd scavenge the rounds and guns from other dead soldiers.
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Stalin didn't care about blood, he was Communist, not a Nazi. People he killed were people suspected of treason or any other anti communist/ anti government work.


Regardless where the conversation has gone I really just have to adress this.

Do you know what Stalin and his administration used for suspicion? It was basically, point, choose, die. Stop trying to justify his motives. The man was perhaps as equally evil, if not more so than Hitler. It's pretty bloody clear he didn't give a care who he killed so long as he had control. Or did the history book not tell you that part?
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