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-1914: a civillian ship went into warzone german teritory, waters(what a shock) it was destroyed, thats what sent america into ww1

That was in 1915, and we did not go to war until 1917 when Germany tried to get Mexico to attack the US. Epic fail on you.

-1939: inteligence about the japanasse attack on pearl harbor was purposfully delayed and pearl harbor with 3000 lives were destroyed.

No one thought the attack would be as huge as it was. But this does not prove an inside job in any way.

-1955: americans lied about 3 destroyers being destroyed in vietnam, and admited too it 30 years later.

It was 1964. And we claimed that North Vietnamese destroyers were destroyed. We lied about their revenge attack 2 days later. Get your facts straight, please!

-2001: american government planted nano themite in the world trade center buildings and went too was with iraq and Afghanistan.



Scientists (who do not support conspiracies) use science and logic to back up their claims.

9/11 conspiracy theorists say "we don't know everything, thus it was a conspiracy!"

-The collapse: the buildings fell in 8 seconds, this means that the buildings dint slowly collapse on each floor and collapse again, it means before they even hit another floor the floor collapsed, otherwised this would have taken over 20 seconds.

Any scientist will tell you that things happen that aren't supposed too, even in the most controlled scientific experiment. You can set up an experiment with everything in a controlled manner, but things will happen that you never expect. The building was "supposed" to take 20 seconds to collapse, but it didn't. That's the ways of the world.

-First steel collapse ever: the world trade centers were the first ever steel building collapse in the history of mankind. other building have been on fire for hours on end and haven't come down since they were made out of steel.

Other buildings have not been hit by 747's with full fuel tanks, in the dead center of the building in a planned attack.

Steel buildings don't collapse from fire, so whats left too make them collapse...the plane? no because the buildings where made too protect against plane crashes.

The WTC construction began in 1966. Planes, since 1966, have almost doubled in size, with fuel tanks ever increasing. They did not makes the buildings to survive a 747 because 747's did not exist.

Thelistman you forgot to say /owned.

That was in 1915, and we did not go to war until 1917 when Germany tried to get Mexico to attack the US. Epic fail on you.

No one thought the attack would be as huge as it was. But this does not prove an inside job in any way.

It was 1964. And we claimed that North Vietnamese destroyers were destroyed. We lied about their revenge attack 2 days later. Get your facts straight, please!

Any scientist will tell you that things happen that aren't supposed too, even in the most controlled scientific experiment. You can set up an experiment with everything in a controlled manner, but things will happen that you never expect. The building was "supposed" to take 20 seconds to collapse, but it didn't. That's the ways of the world.

Other buildings have not been hit by 747's with full fuel tanks, in the dead center of the building in a planned attack.

Steel buildings don't collapse from fire, so whats left too make them collapse...the plane? no because the buildings where made too protect against plane crashes.

Any scientist will tell you that things happen that aren't supposed too, even in the most controlled scientific experiment. You can set up an experiment with everything in a controlled manner, but things will happen that you never expect. The building was "supposed" to take 20 seconds to collapse, but it didn't. That's the ways of the world.

us ship was the deciding factor of entering th war, dont nit pick about the dates.

I was nitpicking about the major factor. The US did NOT enter the war because of the sinking of the Lusitania. They declared war because of the Zimmerman Telegram. Germany's secretary of foreign affairs sent a note to Mexico. The note said that if Mexico attacked the US, Germany would support Mexico. The British intercepted the note and leaked it. That was the reason for war. We literally declared war a month after the Zimmerman Telegram. That was the reason for war.

thats just plain wrong, it defies the laws of physics if it falls, dont forget over 600 engineers and mechanics dont beleave that the buildings just collapsed and want a real investigation.

Don't forget the millions of engineers who support the accepted theory that it was not an inside job.

These buildings are made of steel with steel cores, first of all, the cores would not have fallen from plane hits, thats flatout imposible. second is the buildings were made too withstand plane crashes, it does not mater what existed or not a plane wouldnt have collapst the building, they are made from steel at the top too thickest steel at the bottom, if the top lvl collapsed it would fall on the side and half the building would stay standing, that being said the core would let it do that anyway.

Yes, it actually does matter what type of plane hit it. The plane was twice as big as what the building could withhold. If that plane hits a major steel frame, that could be enough damage to collapse the building.

this was not unexpected, every floor of the building exploded, if you watch videos of 9/11 you can see squibs demonstrating an explosion, this is why the buildings, fell at freefall speed into the path of most resistance, otherwise they would have actually hit intact floors like they were suppose too.

When floors collapse, they will break pipes, gas lines, water pipes, etc. That accounts for the "explosions" and fast speed.

a few months before on a mantenance job they laced the buildings with nano thermite on 9/11 floor by floor they detonated it, melting an enourmous ammount of steel

Now you are just making things up.

Oh, for Veobahamut

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Now you are just making things up.

Yes, it actually does matter what type of plane hit it. The plane was twice as big as what the building could withhold. If that plane hits a major steel frame, that could be enough damage to collapse the building.

thats an explosion not a collapse, pipes breaking dosent send steel flying outwards at high enough speed too get stuck in neighboring buildings

If there are millions of pounds crushing down on a gas or water pipe, it will make that sort of explosion. The pressure builds up so much that it has to blow out somewhere.

the building was designed too withstand multiple plane crashes, one plane crash wpuld hardly even dmg it, let alone make an office fire that apparantly burns at 3000f that totally rips appart every floor of the building floor by floor, the collapse was totally uncalled for

The buildings were made to withstand a single 707 plane with no fuel. I remember that, specifically, from the owner of the WTC. He said they made it to withstand a 707, but forgot to add the fuel. Plus, the planes that hit the WTC were going much faster than what the buildings could withstand (it was a deliberate attack, so they were going faster than regulation). Also, the planes that hit the WTC's were actually 767's, not 747's.

Diath, you made a thread called Inside job or terrorists but instead of trying to come to a decision your just putting your ideas on others the first thread is testment to that.

Correction from my last post:

I remember that, specifically, from the owner of the WTC
should say
I remember that, specifically, from an interview of the owner of the WTC.

Terrorists.


I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, especially when they're stupid.

Um, deith, are you denying that planes even hit the buildings? If you are, then you must believe that the planes magically disappeared in the explosion and in their place appeared fragments of destroyed planes.
If you agree that a plane hit each tower of the WTC, why would they need to collapse to give us an exuse? It would be more economically wise just to hit the buildings without destroying them. So hitting the buildings would've been enough, and we wouldn't need to put explosives in the buildings to knock them over, cost us more damage, and use the same outcome.
I don't deal in many conspiracy theories, but this one is too far beyond me to even consider. "The government", no matter how much you might want to deny it, is composed of people, and all people have morals. If you're telling me we elected people that do not include human lives in their morals, we have no one to blame but ourselves. :P

id like too point one thing out(im about too go somewhere so i cant quote and correct atm) but this isnt a conspiracy theory, a theory has no proof, this is a conspiracy(search 9/11 on google, so many people cant understand how this is posible)

also since many arent familiar with a collapse, a collapse does not incinerate every single thing in the building too the size of a few inches

a theory has no proof, this is a conspiracy

also since many arent familiar with a collapse, a collapse does not incinerate every single thing in the building