-1914: a civillian ship went into warzone german teritory, waters(what a shock) it was destroyed, thats what sent america into ww1
-1939: inteligence about the japanasse attack on pearl harbor was purposfully delayed and pearl harbor with 3000 lives were destroyed.
-1955: americans lied about 3 destroyers being destroyed in vietnam, and admited too it 30 years later.
-2001: american government planted nano themite in the world trade center buildings and went too was with iraq and Afghanistan.
(9/11 inside job? seriously what else is new?)
9/11,
-Steal melting or weakening: the temperatures did not even get high enough too weaken steel like some people claim, steel weakens at 1100F, the buildings burned at 200F or less, black smoke like the ones on 9/11 means a dyin g fire.
-Buildings collapsing: this would never have happened if the laws of physics wherent bent that day, the trade centers were the strongest buildings ever built and they were made too withstand plane crashes, and then they fell because of a little fire and some structural dmg on the top floors, the trade centers are built like pyramides, with the thickest steel on the bottom and weakest on top, with a steel core in the center(these building were not coming down).
-The collapse: the buildings fell in 8 seconds, this means that the buildings dint slowly collapse on each floor and collapse again, it means before they even hit another floor the floor collapsed, otherwised this would have taken over 20 seconds.
-Molten steel: the less heard proof, in the basement and under the building they found pools of molten steel, imposible too be caused by a building collapse or jet fuel, they also found enourmes quantities of nano thermite in the dust after the collapse(witch burns at 2600f).
-First steel collapse ever: the world trade centers were the first ever steel building collapse in the history of mankind. other building have been on fire for hours on end and haven't come down since they were made out of steel.
Steel buildings don't collapse from fire, so whats left too make them collapse...the plane? no because the buildings where made too protect against plane crashes.
Well, seeing as I don't give a shit to read the whole thread, and the title says "9/11 inside job or terorists", I'll just state my opinion. It's terrorism regardless of whether it was our government or some Arabs.
It is actually very convincing what you said, and I would like to know why the U.S government would want to kill all those people, to keep us on our toes? If so, then were a Communist Government and the Conservatives were helping themselves get bush reelected, since he was all about terrorism.
It is actually very convincing what you said, and I would like to know why the U.S government would want to kill all those people, to keep us on our toes? If so, then were a Communist Government and the Conservatives were helping themselves get bush reelected, since he was all about terrorism.
Actual too much conservatism leads to fascism while too much liberalism leads to communism.
Ahhhhh, "conservative" and "liberal" have become such misnomers in today's political world.
Try on "constitutionalist" for size - it's what we had before "conservatives". And too much of it definitely doesn't lead to fascism. Bush happens to fail as a conservative - he is in fact closer to the religious extremists he's been fighting. God's on his side! Ah the irony.
i think bush made a deal with the devil (terrorists). they would have sooner shoot it down then let it crash because there was less people in the plane than in the tower. and after they had that reason to invade, they could take all the oil they wanted. fucking Texan
Seeing as Bush is so corruptible we should maybe looking at people who may have influenced him to make a pact with them, even if the government was involved.
Do you realize that every time we say Bush, what we actually mean to say is Cheney?
no this has been proven, the entire conspiracy itself hasnt been but researches have found nanothermite dust inside the dust from ground zero
Finding nano-thermite in dust after a giant building collapses doesn't mean that the entire thing was an inside job. Check your logic, because it fails.
the fires were contained on a few floor and they were dying, the building was also built too smuther fires, and they did just that. the fires you see on 911 let out black smoke, a sing of death.
Keep in mind that there was an initial impact, which would've weakened the steel, and fires have to burn a while before they die. Also, metal retains heat, so even a duller fire would still weaken and eventually melt the steel. Also, the WTC was still standing for 1-2 hours before it collapsed, which is more than enough time for a fire to weaken steel enough for it to collapse.
since a 747
the 747
IT WAS A F*CKING 767!!!!!!!!!1 Get your facts right. You cannot debate this if you aren't informed correctly, dammit.
Also, there were TWO 767s.
someone other than Klaushouse debate,
So right when you get backed into a corner and can't continue, you mudsling and tell your opponent to leave?
*takes out loaded .44 Magnum*
all those what ifs dint happen, there was about 1000 gallons that was poured into one floor of the trade centers out of the 23 000 gallons the 747 can carry, the fuel burned at a low temperature since it was being smuthered, and dint last long. and jet fuel would have burned at 500F at max
How do you know any of this? Cite your sources.
*loads two bullets*
the science is flawed cuz he was being generous,
It's still flawed. . . .
*loads two more*
a fire burns things, it does not incinerate human bodys too dust, melt steel too pools of molten iron and evescirate every single thing in the building too the size of a phone(only intact thing recovered)
Heat and temperature are different things. . . .
Heat builds up over time! The fire was burning for about two hours - and there WAS a 2nd impact.
Also. . .you keep saying that there was nano-thermite found, and you also keep saying that it couldn't have been fire because there was black smoke. Nano-thermite burns in. . .you guessed it, not black smoke. White smoke. There was some white smoke, but guess what? JET FUEL BURNS WITH WHITE SMOKE.
