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RickersXS
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When Rhys Jones got shot everyone got in a rage about how guns are bad but guns are inanimate objects so that cant be bad because their not alive

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thelistman
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If guns kill people, do pencils write mistakes? Do forks and spoons make people fat?

I don't think that people should be able to walk around with assault rifles in public. But I don't see what's wrong with owning a gun for protection. If a person wants to kill someone, they are going to do it, with or without a gun. It's not the guns that kill.

donpiet
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If a person wants to kill someone, they are going to do it, with or without a gun


true but its so much easier when you have a gun.

But I don't see what's wrong with owning a gun for protection.


yes you can protect yourself and also when you panic and think something is wrong, kill someone innocent. eg. a kid coming home late from a party.

this kind of accidents do not happen in countris where you dont own guns.
also the burglaries and all incidents escalate easier if all people have guns.
dunadan
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This is a false argument to say "I have it to protect myself"
If no one have guns, from what do you need to be protected?
It's guns that turns everything into danger...

Ithae
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If you owned a business, like say the jewelery business my step dad created, then yes keep a gun under the counter. I think it's to late to take guns out of America since just about everyone has 2 or 3.

dunadan
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I think it's to late to take guns out of America since just about everyone has 2 or 3.


It's never too late...
If you don't have the right to have it, then you can be arrested with a gun, etc...and with time it will slowly be removed from your culture...
knight_34
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This is a false argument to say "I have it to protect myself"


When people say that they mean, "I need a gun to protect myself from other people with guns." Owning a gun to protect yourself from other people with guns isn't wrong at all. Also, not all of us are experts at self-defense.

this kind of accidents do not happen in countris where you dont own guns.


People in almost every country own guns. Owning guns is interpreted as legal ownership. In fact even with guns banned, criminals can still smuggle them. That situation would makes accidents like the mentioned more likely.

yes you can protect yourself and also when you panic and think something is wrong, kill someone innocent. eg. a kid coming home late from a party.


And you can kill a serial killer who is trying to kill you. It's a double-edged sword. With proper training and usage, guns are effective.

If a person wants to kill someone, they are going to do it, with or without a gun.


I completely agree with you, thelistman.

Another point I have to make is that the people are bad. The guns aren't. I will use an analogy. If you kill someone with a sling, who will be blamed? The stone, the sling or you?

Guns are not bad. They are valuable for self-defense. In a world like this, you need adequate protection to counter any assailant. Since guns are the weapons of our day, you'll need guns. If we lived in medieval times, we'd have weapons too.
dunadan
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People in almost every country own guns.


No.
Clearly not.
In most of european countries, just a few people owns guns:militarians, and a few more people (mainly illegaly).

Plus, you can"t say that guns are bad or wrong.
Guns are made to kill, it's a fact.
You aim to someone, pull the trigger, he's dead.End.
So it can't be a good thing, for it's essentially an attack weapon.
knight_34
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Weapons are devices or instruments used to attack and defend.

Thus, guns are used to attack and defend.

You aim to someone, pull the trigger, he's dead.End.


That does not necessarily refer to attack.

Guns are made to kill, it's a fact.


Yes, it's a fact. Though that fact doesn't discredit guns. We kill by attacking, we defend by killing.


So it can't be a good thing, for it's essentially an attack weapon.


Whether they are good or not depends on the situation and manner in which they are used. The proper use of firearms in defense is good.
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I agree with knight_34, Whether guns are illegal are not alot of criminals will still be able to get they're hands of them via smuggling or what not, And guns are made to kill, But people also use knives to kill. Should they be made illegal? It is not the guns that are bad, And accidents happen with weapons whether it be a gun or not, crap happens

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@ quickshift knives can be used for other things like eating what can you use a gun for besides killing?

Personally I would think it better to get rid of guns completely and go back to hand to hand weapons like medieval times you need training and discipline in order to use one so theoretically crime would go down

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we defend by killing.


There are lots of ways to defend yourself besides killing your attacker.

Most people believe killing is bad. Guns are used solely for killing. So why don't most people think guns are bad?

I need a gun to protect myself from other people with guns.


Isn't that the same as saying "We need nukes to protect ourselves from other countries with nukes." These are both stupid statements. Why not just get rid of the nukes all together? Then you won't have to protect yourself anymore.
donpiet
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Personally I would think it better to get rid of guns completely and go back to hand to hand weapons like medieval times you need training and discipline in order to use one so theoretically crime would go down


most crimes are commited without the use of any real firearms.
the problem with having guns in almost every household is, that you get a higher tension when it comes to crimes. any burglar knows he may rob someone with a gun, so he will try to bring his own weapons.
also it is easier for criminals to get firearms, because you can buy them legally everywhere. if gun possession would be limited, only criminals would carry around guns and the risk of getting caught is higher, so even criminals(burglars, robbers and so on) wouldnt use weapons when performing crimes. and thus i think all crimes are bad, i rather want to be robbed, then to be shot, when encountering the burglar. also i think that shooting and killing someone who tries to steal is not justified.

And you can kill a serial killer who is trying to kill you. It's a double-edged sword. With proper training and usage, guns are effective.


i am really interested in statistics showing how many serial killers encounter people in their home and get shot by the victim in defense, in comparison to the accidents, where random people being on someones property get shot.
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Guns are just objects like any other, though the only thing a gun can do is ruining human lives.

The guns and the bombs, the rockets and the warships, are all symbols of human failure.
Lyndon B. Johnson

RickersXS
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@goumas13
guns can do more than kill people. In the Olympics there's about 5 events which include guns. They dont invole anyone getting killed

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i wish i had a gun i could go BANG to bad people plus my uncle has sniper rifles shotguns pistols foreign knives of different armies and gun permit!life is so cruel!

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