Who are they you ask? The Native Americans. There are only a few thousand of them left. When the white settlers first came to North America there was 1 million of them.
Let me ask you this, if you found a purse owned by a woman and the purse and the woman are both in the same room and you find and pick up the purse. You say, "I claim this in the name of my people and my country! The contents of everything inside is now also mine!" Is that right?
No of course not, but we inevitably did the same thing to the Native Americans with their land and people. They helped the pilgrims in their time of need by teaching them how to farm and tend to the land. How did we repay them? Killing them by the thousands.
I think we could have co-existed with them if we were more tolerable in the beginning of our nation's roots. How can we truly call ourselves the "Land of the Free" if we were made and built on injustices like the Native Americans, slavery, and how intolerable we were to woman? Sure we wised up eventually but there is still work to be done with gay rights.
Anyways the theme of this is, do you think America has the right to call itself the "Land of the Free" and how do you feel about the Native American injustice?
I think it was a lot different back then. The people were just stupid little rednecks. And if they felt like they should kill people to own land, they would. And yes we are the "Land of the Free" even know we don't deserve it.
Well we had to get land Somehow! I mean, they could of just given up, but instead they fought back, so we shot them. Simple enough?
We were already living in co-existence with them... and we could have probably continued that. The WHITE MAN started the killing first not the Native Americans.
How did we repay them? Killing them by the thousands.
Actually, this was the Europeans, not us. The stuff you are talking about is not really our fault, but more of the European nations like Spain, Portugal, England, the Netherlands, and a few more. We were not a part of this genocide that you speak of, though the fate of the Native American's was not deserved.
Actually, this was the Europeans, not us. The stuff you are talking about is not really our fault, but more of the European nations like Spain, Portugal, England, the Netherlands, and a few more.
Isn't that where the first roots of America came from though? The country was built on immigrants... so no it wasn't us specifically but it was indeed our ancestors.
Isn't that where the first roots of America came from though? The country was built on immigrants... so no it wasn't us specifically but it was indeed our ancestors.
Yes that's more accurate. Just make sure you don't say like "It was us Americans who now live in the US who caused this horrible genocide," because it is inaccurate and untrue. Not that you did, but I'm just saying this more in general to everyone who reads this.
Is it really a win-win if a whole culture was destroyed just for the LUCKY Native Americans to have a fate of working at/owning casinos?
Well, When the Europeans came to Plymouth, they always had the advantage: they used smallpox and guns to dominate. Sadly since whites established their dominance over them they could control them. With a growing population of new settlers, the only option was to make them move in order to suit the needs of the new settlers. Over time, this action of reducing their land for the whites has grown. I hate to sound racist, but I would much prefer to suit the needs of the people, than those of the Native Americans. we have land set aside for them and they can do any thing on it. They receive government checks, they can assimilate themselves with us, or sometimes both whites and Indians can share the same park.
Let me ask you this, if you found a purse owned by a woman and the purse and the woman are both in the same room and you find and pick up the purse. You say, "I claim this in the name of my people and my country! The contents of everything inside is now also mine!" Is that right?
Basically, it's like someone walking into your backyard, claiming it's theirs, and then killing you for not surrendering. The English came to America with the thought that everything there was their own if they wanted it. Sure, the Native Americans might have started some of the assaults, but they have a right to defend their land. The English just thought of the Indians as animals.
The people were just stupid little rednecks.
Stuck up rich men were at the Jamestown colony. The other colonies were made up of Puritan nut jobs. Or the people who historians like to say were the base of our government. I hate how historians always forget about the bad side of everything, and make these people out to be heroes.
I mean, they could of just given up, but instead they fought back, so we shot them. Simple enough?
Why should they be forced to give up their own land, just because the English wanted it? The Native Americans were there first, and the English had no right to take the land from them. Also, since the Native Americans weren't familiar to English currency, they were manipulated and ended up selling Manhattan for $24.
The WHITE MAN started the killing first not the Native Americans.
Well it was the Native Americans who usually antagonized the English, but like I said before, they had a right to attack them. You can't just go into someones back yard unannounced and expect them to welcome you.
Let me ask you this, if you found a purse owned by a woman and the purse and the woman are both in the same room and you find and pick up the purse. You say, "I claim this in the name of my people and my country! The contents of everything inside is now also mine!" Is that right?
This is a poor analogy. The Native Americans had no sense of ownership - especially of land. So it would be like "Is this your land?" "No, the earth cannot belong to anyone." "Whatever you say, chief. We're taking over this place." Not that I support the actions of the U.S. in regard to Native Americans, just playing devil's advocate.
Among other diseases. The crazy thing is, the English thought that because the Native Americans would get these diseases and die, but the English wouldn't, God was on their side. They thought that God was the ultimate real estate agent, basically.
English: Hey, God! We need some land over here, preferably to the south-west, how much do you think will cost? God: Cost?! I can get you that for free!! *kills a couple hundred thousand Indians*
we have land set aside for them and they can do any thing on it. They receive government checks, they can assimilate themselves with us, or sometimes both whites and Indians can share the same park.
The checks are barely anything to be honest and the land they own is small and cramped and a disgrace to what they deserve.
Over time, this action of reducing their land for the whites has grown. I hate to sound racist, but I would much prefer to suit the needs of the people, than those of the Native Americans
sooo apparently the Native Americans aren't people?
With a growing population of new settlers, the only option was to make them move in order to suit the needs of the new settlers.
really? It was the ONLY option? Like I said, we could have easily co-existed with the Natives.
