there are alot of atheists and Christians and threads about these so i thought why not create a muslin thread and another reason why i created this thread is because i was wondering if there were other muslims on ag.
just like the other threads we can talk about anything muslim
The Crusaders knew what they were doing when they were taking the holy lands, from the blasphemous muslims.
The crusader did more harm to the christian people on their way to their goal, which they didn't even reach the first time, than anything they did to muslims. They turned into marauding and murdering barbarians, taking land on their way instead of the one they were told to, ending up fighting between each other for those lands. Now talk about a glorious army of god... at least when the muslims invaded Europe, they brought their knowledge with them, and you can't deny we wouldn't be where we are now if it weren't for them.
The rest of your post is just hating, biased extremistic crap.
Seriously? Sumerian religion only extends to the 2,500 B.C., and the Egyptian gods were seriously IN THE BIBLE. Norse mythology is again later, as Yoruba and Aztec's religion are.
I think what you mean is that it does not predate Judaism. Furthermore, following the Neolithic Revolution, approximately 9-8000 BC, most city developments were lead by leaders that picked themselves on a theological basis. Judaism cannot be the earliest religion, seeing as many historians agree that religion predated recorded history. If such is the case, then there were religions before man could not write. It is possible that a clan/tribe believed in the sun, therefore making them monotheistic, no? Though I'm not exactly sure as to what you're arguing, Shift. Sorry if I'm not making sense. Lol
Furthermore, the Crusades did a lot of good stuff for Europe, as well. Europe received a bunch of knowledge they had lost, got a middle class, pulled itself out of Feudalism, and gave itself a good push towards reclaiming Spain in 1492, and making bigger boats to Asia to propel their economy. I think what people don't realize is that many religious wars are not primarily influenced for religious reasons, but for political ones. Once those are decided, religious influence is a nice addition.
Lastly, the majority of Muslims don't wear turbans/towels, and I don't see what is wrong with riding a camel. Even if they did, I don't think that makes them any less human.
Judaism cannot be the earliest religion, seeing as many historians agree that religion predated recorded history
this is prety logical. i didn't think any1 was thinking different about it. i thought it was commen sense. anyway he wanted examples so i tried to get them. those i said are the best known polytheistic religions.(greek mythology was taken alrdy) so i gave it a shot =P
it is pro-religion. we are talking about religions here. so whats wierd about it? if we talk about evolution or abiogenesis i give you sites whit science. science related sites will never give information about religions questions. because it is not science that came up whit the idea of a god. and so science has no need to proof or disproof anything in the bible.
and what better proof of the Egyptian gods were not in the bible do you want then a site that is pro-religion? even the people that believe in the same as you believe in say that they are not in the bible.
... I don't get it. Would you like me to quote it for you?
10,000â"7000 years BP (8,000â"5000 BC), with the earliest known evidence found throughout the tropical and subtropical areas of southwestern and southern Asia, northern and central Africa and Central America.
I'm assuming you're agreeing with me that Judaism popped around 3,000 BC? So anywhere from 10-5 is still earlier. Since your using Wikipedia, I looked up the chronology of Abrahemic religions, and the earliest date I found was between the 5,000-6,000 BCE. So we'll say 5,500 BCE. So it still isn't the oldest. Furthermore, the earliest civilizations in recorded history based on archaeological city sites we've seen are in Africa, India/Pakistan, and China. You still didn't tell me what you were arguing about, but if you're saying Judaism was the first established religion among any group of people, I dare say that you are wrong.
To partydevil, did you read that entire website? Seriously, it is pro religion. Its funny that you would link to it.
If you are so sure that the names of Egyptian gods are mentioned, find a verse. [I'm not a Christian so I can't back this up]. But I'm sure that the site partydevil gave makes sense. Any website should do, as this is an argument over a fact that can be looked over. All you have to do is see if you see the name of an Egyptian god. The civilization is mentioned, but I've never heard of the Gods being mentioned. Even if they were mentioned, it is no proof that Egyptian religion predates Judaism seeing as the two's history predate recorded history. So I don't think any of this really matters.
I personally have had bad experiences with Muslims
Really? I have never, in my entire life, had a personally bad experience with any Muslim person. They've all been nice, hospitable and generally good-natured people.
