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Pixie214
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I was reading Derren Browns blog (as you do :P) and he was talking about how the film Creation has found no disributors in the United States because Darwins theory is "too controversial for an American audience".

Movieguide.org is an site which reviews films from a Christian perspective and described Darwin as the father of eugenics and denounced him as "a racist, a bigot and an 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder". His "half-baked theory" directly influenced Adolf Hitler and led to "atrocities, crimes against humanity, cloning and genetic engineering".

However good ol' wikipedia says that Newmarket films has decided to release it in the US in December.

But surely there are enough people in the US that either believe in Evolution or at least understand that a FILM can't hurt you.

So what do you think? This thread isn't about whether evolution is real etc. but more about whether it is right to not release the film.

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TSL3_needed
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Ever wondered why I have a problem with religion?

I say they should release it, and not give a shiz about anyone's opinion of it.

Anyway, what they called Darwin is so far off that they aren't even serious really. It's quite funny.

goumas13
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It's not correct not allowing to show a film about evolution, you may disagree with what the film says but the viewer has the right to watch what he wants and to decided if what he watched is right or wrong.

deserteagle
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All that Darwin did was suggest a theory of Natural selection.
I don't get why people hate him so much.

MageGrayWolf
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All that Darwin did was suggest a theory of Natural selection.
I don't get why people hate him so much.


Because it's in direct contrast to what the Bible says. The same reason why Galileo was tried for heresy for saying the Earth revolved around the sun.
deserteagle
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^ but the bible didn't say directly:"In thy solar system; Earth,( the planet of thy LORD), is the centre and the planets and the sun revolve arond it. - Matthew 98:99"

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the bible said god created everything. not that god created one organism, and that organism slowly adapted to its' environment over millions of years, billions of years later resulting in a large amount of species, and that the environment has control over this, not god.

MageGrayWolf
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^ but the bible didn't say directly:"In thy solar system; Earth,( the planet of thy LORD), is the centre and the planets and the sun revolve arond it. - Matthew 98:99"


Where did you get that from there is no Matthew 98:99?

Though I did find this.
What the Bible says about the movement of the sun
deserteagle
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Where did you get that from there is no Matthew 98:99?

It was a made up massage. 98:99 was the first thing that popped in my head.

Though I did find this.

What the hell?! LOL
MageGrayWolf
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What the hell?! LOL


It's to demonstrate why the church once held the belief that the sun revolved around the earth.
deserteagle
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^I know, but it is funny to think that people once believed though.

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All that Darwin did was suggest a theory of Natural selection.
I don't get why people hate him so much.

Ol' Darwin started to go in the later years. He said... A couple a things... You've never seen that in a history book have you? :P
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Movieguide.org is an site which reviews films from a Christian perspective and described Darwin as the father of eugenics and denounced him as "a racist, a bigot and an 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder". His "half-baked theory" directly influenced Adolf Hitler and led to "atrocities, crimes against humanity, cloning and genetic engineering".



And this is why I hate any religion, extremists, and easily-influenced people. This same movie site said that watching The Golden Compass went against the word of "God" and that Harry Potter is for satanists. I'm sorry, but ANY views should not be based on religion because everyone who is involved in one is highly biased against certain forms of things.

1. Racist and Bigot is the same damned thing you morons

2. I didn't know that doing research would kill people. I guess this is why Christianity has no evidence for their religion.

3. Adolf Hitler was a Christian too, geniuses

4. Crimes against Humanity? For every one that you name against Evolution, we can name 40 against you.

5. Genetic Engineering helps us determine genes and can pave the way for us to remove certain genes we don't want, so in turn, it is helping humanity, while we have wars killing others in the name of Religion.

Nice work, MovieGod.
Armed_Blade
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1. Racist and Bigot is the same ****ed thing you morons


1) Being Racist could be racist or hateful towards one race for who they are, while being a Bigot is usually a way to describe one who thinks that because of who they are (based on whatever reason, not just race) is better than the rest.

3. Adolf Hitler was a Christian too, geniuses

2) Whoa there, **You might want to read a few pages of his books**, he was specifically a god to the Germans.

killing others in the name of Religion

3) Fine, Lets take Religion out of the picture. Whoof, Its gone. Then what, I make a war over ... er... "Morals"? Religion is good, but its the easiest thing to put a blame over for your personal gains. Its a great way to get a morale boost for a war, control people, but that's just wrong against the faith to begin with. I'm rather sure that more wars are caused over differences in the way you live/are or over something people want than religion. Religions a great way to bond a community, once something breaks the chain there's a regular reason to break them off whatever union exists -- and therefore to fight for it. I take religious wars more as a blame for not wanting to lose power over to another religious group/take things from other areas -- Not actually over the fact that someone believes in something else.

Oh, and by the way, Its a little (just a little) fail if you take account of every living human that did not officially convert to Atheism as a true God fearin' tax payin' republican patriot that was a total impostor due to the fact he was one of histories greatest tyrants.
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2) Whoa there, **You might want to read a few pages of his books**, he was specifically a god to the Germans.


I can tell you now that he specifically wanted people to be Christian before getting people slammed.

Oh, and by the way, Its a little (just a little) fail if you take account of every living human that did not officially convert to Atheism as a true God fearin' tax payin' republican patriot that was a total impostor due to the fact he was one of histories greatest tyrants.


Truth is, not every Christian is that devoted to their fundamental religion. Most of them are just sheep to the cause, just wanting to fit in. Then there are those that convert people. Nothing bad about that. But when you do something that bad converters do or at least something that MovieGod has done, you should at least open your eyes a bit and see the truth that your religion is incredibly biased at times and is completely lopsided in their views,

Which brings me to the point that makes me want this "Movieguide.org" shut down so badly. But I know that'll never happen... :-(
MageGrayWolf
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[quote]3. Adolf Hitler was a Christian too, geniuses

2) Whoa there, **You might want to read a few pages of his books**, he was specifically a god to the Germans. [/quote]

True he was regarded as a god by the Germans but what does that have to do with his own personal beliefs?


Fine, Lets take Religion out of the picture. Whoof, Its gone. Then what, I make a war over ... er... "Morals"? Religion is good, but its the easiest thing to put a blame over for your personal gains. Its a great way to get a morale boost for a war, control people, but that's just wrong against the faith to begin with.


That isn't placing blame for personal gains it's being used to manipulate. I almost find this funny. Religion is good and has little to do with war but it's directly linked to people boosting morale for war. On the point of it being against the faith you will have to be more specific here. If you mean Christian faith you may be surprised.


I'm rather sure that more wars are caused over differences in the way you live/are or over something people want than religion. Religions a great way to bond a community, once something breaks the chain there's a regular reason to break them off whatever union existsand -- therefore to fight for it.


And what has influenced the way people live.. religion perhaps?

I take religious wars more as a blame for not wanting to lose power over to another religious group/take things from other areas -- Not actually over the fact that someone believes in something else.


It's not because they believe something else but because they are a different religion?

Oh, and by the way, Its a little (just a little) fail if you take account of every living human that did not officially convert to Atheism as a true God fearin' tax payin' republican patriot that was a total impostor due to the fact he was one of histories greatest tyrants.


Okay I don't even know what your trying to say here.
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