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Graham
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Sitting through yet another forced visit to the church, I decided to come up with some questions. See if you can answer them.

First the questions, then the analysis.

Questions
1. Do humans understand god? Would you agree with the analogy God:Humanog?

2. (Monotheistic) How do you know there isn't many "God"s in each one of us?

3. Religion is OLD. Do you think that it is really a credible source?

4. Miracles, are they mind's tricks?

5. Is it not easy to blame things on 'God'(s) rather than understand it yourself?

6. (Christianity) Could being last be selfish?

7. Knowing you have someone watching out for you, blind hope?
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Analysis
1. If you did agree with the analogy then how would you know what 'good' is? You know nothing other than what your owner has given you. Being agnostic I feel that I can choose which owner I think will suit me the most.

2. They refer to him as 'Father'. Taking things as a singularity is easy. How do you know there isn't many 'God's inside each one of us and you just refer to him as a whole?

3. It was in the days before modern science. Many many many religions seems to have formed in the past before scientific explainations.

4. The mind is one of your most powerful traits in a human. It is possible to kill yourself by just believing.

5. It is very easy! This relates to question 3. Look at salem witch trials. They're witches! Look at what they did! Burn them!! Rather than assess the situation.

6. It can be! Giving away all your items just to receive the best. Giving away all your items just so you know when you're dead you haven't missed out on the potentially great things you have.

7. It can be a false security that leads to bad decisions.

In conclusion, the 'Bible'(s) are simply biased books of wisdom to me.

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Lieutenut
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first, let's say there isn't a god. you live your life with no purpose other than to reproduce to continue the human race and please yourself


wow, that sounds like the life to me! better than a life of pleasing nothing and living of fear of hell
rafterman
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So here's my question : Even if you don't believe in God, is it worth the risk of going to hell? why not living a life for him, just to be safe?


Living life for myself is better then living life for someone else and getting a slim chance to live life for myself after wards.

And he created a good Satan, Satan made himself evil...

Satan could not turn evil if god did not create evil.

you give money to the church because they find ways to use it 2 help people or give it 2 people who need it, even to help build or fund other struggling churchs


Or you could give it to a charity that will give all of it to the needy, not just a small fraction.
Flippin3500
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why not living a life for him, just to be safe?


Well, if you went by that, God would know that you were just following him just to be safe. You wouldn't make it to Heaven would you?

The war wasnt in heaven...


KJV Revalation 12:7

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,"

The dragon being Satan.

And he created a good Satan, Satan made himself evil...


He still created Satan...

Before you say anything about "He was stupid to create free will then" If he didnt create any free will, what would life be like? Having no choice about anything would be terrible....


No one said that... Being atheist has more free will than being a Christian does.
JJ52
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He still created Satan...


SO if you have a child, and raise him to the best of your ability, and teach him killing is bad, and he grows up to be a mass murder. Is that your fault, or his?

KJV Revalation 12:7

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,"

The dragon being Satan.

Ill have to say you got me there, but God didnt intend for there to be any violence at all, ever. It was all Satan's doing with his free will. Heaven was made to be a peaceful place, but turned into violent place for a little.

If you remember there was a shooting at a WWII museum/memorial. That place was ment to be peaceful, but because of someones hate and anger it was a place of violence during the shooting. Does that make the people who built it liars?

No one said that... Being atheist has more free will than being a Christian does.


What I said is something that some people say to try to make God sound bad, nobody here said, Ive just heard it before.
mmdc
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consider things like sex for instance. if you have intercourse with as many people as possible, what will happen? likely you will get a disease that will leave you infertile or even death. If you have intercourse with only one person, there is no risk as long as it is the same for them.

Graham
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but God didnt intend for there to be any violence at all, ever


good intent =/= good

isn't God supposed to be 'All-Knowing' so he could've easily predicted this rebellion and destroyed it before it occured?
Flippin3500
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SO if you have a child, and raise him to the best of your ability, and teach him killing is bad, and he grows up to be a mass murder. Is that your fault, or his?


God created evil, therefor it would be God's fault.

Ill have to say you got me there, but God didnt intend for there to be any violence at all, ever. It was all Satan's doing with his free will. Heaven was made to be a peaceful place, but turned into violent place for a little.

If you remember there was a shooting at a WWII museum/memorial. That place was ment to be peaceful, but because of someones hate and anger it was a place of violence during the shooting. Does that make the people who built it liars?


Yeah but God said there is no evil in Heaven, nor was there ever evil in Heaven.

(This is for the second part of the quote.)

Humans are of earthly proportions, they make mistakes. God isn't supposed to make mistakes, because.. well he's God. If God hadn't created evil, there would be no Satan, nor would there be any shootings at a WWII museum/memorial.

Yes, I believe if there is a God, that it was a good idea to make free-will, but that still doesn't change the fact that God created Satan.
Flippin3500
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isn't God supposed to be 'All-Knowing' so he could've easily predicted this rebellion and destroyed it before it occured?


Exactly. It's kinda like God wanted all this evil in the world.
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first, let's say there isn't a god. you live your life with no purpose other than to reproduce to continue the human race and please yourself.


Sounds fine by me. Though your statement is contradictory. Reproduction to continue the human race and by extension my own genes and self pleasure is purpose.

Either way, eventually you die and that is the end of it, regardless of your decisions in life.


Making life just that much more worth living and special.

You have to choices, to live for yourself OR to live for God. if you live for yourself, you'll die, and go to hell, a place of eternal pain and torture, forever. If you live for God, you'll die and get sent to heaven, a place of eternal peace and happiness.


If you live your life for me I'll give you candy, but if you don't then some guy named Stan is going to come over to your house and break your fingers with a hammer.

So here's my question : Even if you don't believe in God, is it worth the risk of going to hell? why not living a life for him, just to be safe?


I have to ask a question back. How do you know your living for the correct God or even in the right way? As I said in my first post there are over 10,000 different religions each with hundreds even thousand of separate denominations to them.

I've Converted To EVERY Religion (Just In Case)

Before you say anything about "He was stupid to create free will then" If he didnt create any free will, what would life be like? Having no choice about anything would be terrible.


If you knew of no other existence then how would you know it's so terrible?

No one said that... Being atheist has more free will than being a Christian does.


I would also like to add being atheist also puts more responsibility on oneself.

consider things like sex for instance. if you have intercourse with as many people as possible, what will happen? likely you will get a disease that will leave you infertile or even death.

Yes you increase your odds, what's your point? Even if someone wanted to do this there are numerous precautions that can be taken to reduce your chances of contracting an STD.

I haven't heard of an STD causing infertility and it's usually a secondary infections that the body can no longer fight off because of the STD that cause death.

If you have intercourse with only one person, there is no risk as long as it is the same for them.


No this doesn't mean you have no risk. There are other ways you can contract STDs then sexual intercourse.
Lieutenut
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mage rofl. I saw that vid (I've converted to every religion) it was hilarious :P

mmdc
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alright guys I don't know everything or even half of everything, so please just answer yes or no, if just to humor me.

mmdc
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do you guys know everything? (sorry, I accidently pushed submit too early on my last post.)

Blu3sBr0s
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do you guys know everything?


Yes.

That's why I'm an atheist not an agnostic.

A supreme being came to me in a dream and told me that there is no supreme being.
Flippin3500
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@mmdc

Yes, we do know everything. Thanks for noticing. :]

MageGrayWolf
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do you guys know everything?


No I don't know everything, that's why I ask questions.
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