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What I'd like to discuss in this thread is theories related to how the human race will advance, in regards to planetary expansion. This is important, because eventually, Earth will no longer be able to sustain human life. Whether it be caused by man, or natural events, Earth won't last forever. If the human race wants to survive, we must expand sooner or later.
I believe the first step is the colonization of the Moon. Currently, NASA is planning to create a Lunar Outpost, sometime between the years of 2019 and 2024. If this goes as planned, the colonization of the Moon will take a great leap forward. It may still be decades after the event that normal, everyday citizens, are able to live on the moon, and even longer until the colonies are able to sustain themselves; but the base of all future operations will have been established. Additionally, the colonization of the Moon will set the system by which nations claim land on all planets.
Will humans work together as one unit to colonize the solar system, and eventually the universe; or will future planets work the same as Earth, fighting amongst itself; leading to disestablishment eventually. If the latter is chosen, and nations are established, will they stay in collaboration with the government of other planets, or will there be no alliance between the human race?
I apologize for getting a bit astray from my topic of Moon colonization, but it's all very interesting stuff.
The next step, after successfully establishing a stable, time weathered Lunar government, is to colonize another planet. Most likely Mars. Of course, Mars is more likely to allow humans to live a life comparable to what their Earth dwelling ancestors live; due to its ability to be terraformed, while we are unsure whether or not the Moon could be terraformed.
Here is an artists interpretation of what a terraformed Moon may look like.
And here is the possible terraformation (word?) process of Mars. 
Note the resemblance to Earth that the terraformed Mars has.
Scientists have also considered the possibility of terraforming Venus, which would be a much more difficult challenge than either the Moon or Mars.
I'm not going to get into the details of the process (as it's quite complicated), but if you would like to learn more about it the information is online. I will show you pictures however, showing the change that would need to be made. Something to note, is that due to global warming, Venus is the warmest planet in our solar system. Could that be the fate of Earth, after abandoned? Only to be once again terraformed and restored by another species, or the descendants of the long forgotten inhabitants of Earth?
Current state of Venus
Artists rendition of a terraformed Venus![]()
Please keep in mind, that this entire thread is based purely on theories, some person, and that in no event should my outline be thought of as the end all, be all, of human expansion. It's simply what I believe may or may not happen, depending on events of the next few decades, and century.
I know this is a very long OP, so I won't go into detail about other discussion points, but I would like to point them out.
*Effect on humans, as a species? How would living on these planets affect the evolutionary path of humans?
*Will humans be able to achieve planetary expansion at all? If so, how far do you believe we will get?
*Will an alliance be made between all planets? How likely is it that the human race grows apart and eventually disassociates with the others as evolution and time goes on?
Your views on the entire matter?
I will not argue any further about global warming, since at this rate I will surely fail.
I think It will be possible to teraform Mars if we start soon some how (don't ask me how). The moon will be harder because of less gravity but at the same time easier because it's closer.
has nobody here a reader of Isaac Asimov?
alternatives: underground cities first, and from there outside.will work for mars and the moon
I know that eventually, the human race will have to expand to other planets because the way we have gone about living on Earth isn't within Earth's limits so sooner or later, we'll have move on.
I really just can't imagine people living on different planets. Now, I'm not saying it's possible but it's just difficult for me to imagine due to the fact that we've only sent men to the moon.
has nobody here a reader of Isaac Asimov?
The caves of steel concept. However we are a surface dwelling creature, and we need sunlight, otherwise we might eventually mutate to be so sensitive to ultra violet light, that we will burn up to a crisp. We would be all bug eyed and stuff. We wouldnt be able to really leave. And yes, evolution, as slow as you may think it can happen, can actually happen very, very fast. Because if you think of it, something like a fly, can mutate, and evolve into something else in a minute. It is proven that humans can undergo this process after a few months.
Im nto saying this will happen, but it is highly likely if we ever take this idea to action.
what about when the sun dies?
how will everything survive then?
what about when the sun dies?
how will everything survive then?
The caves of steel concept. However we are a surface dwelling creature, and we need sunlight, otherwise we might eventually mutate to be so sensitive to ultra violet light, that we will burn up to a crisp. We would be all bug eyed and stuff. We wouldnt be able to really leave. And yes, evolution, as slow as you may think it can happen, can actually happen very, very fast. Because if you think of it, something like a fly, can mutate, and evolve into something else in a minute. It is proven that humans can undergo this process after a few months.
Im nto saying this will happen, but it is highly likely if we ever take this idea to action.
Okay, Global Warming is not a joke. If you had any form of modern education, you would know that. Ever seen the Inconvenient Truth?
Then again, when the ice caps melt, the world overheats, and everybody dies from pollution, I guess I'll have a reason to laugh at you when I become one of the last to survive on Planet Earth by hiding in my freezer.
1. I know that there are heating and cooling cycles, but seriously, the charts show that the levels have never gone over 300 ppm, and that now, they are over 700 ppm.
2. Carbon Dioxide does not help plants grow. It's what plants release when they rot...
3. Ice caps... melting... Al Gore... Any of this ring a bell?
Also, I think that we might be able to expand onto Mars sooner than possible. New technologies are being created everyday. Sooner or later, NASA will send like, 300 spaceships full of algae mixed with some super-growth formula made by nerds in labs. We'll have moved there by June. XD
If you had any form of modern education, you would know that.
Carbon Dioxide does not help plants grow. It's what plants release when they rot...
I know that there are heating and cooling cycles, but seriously, the charts show that the levels have never gone over 300 ppm, and that now, they are over 700 ppm.
Ice caps... melting... Al Gore... Any of this ring a bell?
Also, I think that we might be able to expand onto Mars sooner than possible. New technologies are being created everyday. Sooner or later, NASA will send like, 300 spaceships full of algae mixed with some super-growth formula made by nerds in labs.
Okay, Global Warming is not a joke. If you had any form of modern education, you would know that. Ever seen the Inconvenient Truth?
In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.
2. Carbon Dioxide does not help plants grow. It's what plants release when they rot...
1. I know that there are heating and cooling cycles, but seriously, the charts show that the levels have never gone over 300 ppm, and that now, they are over 700 ppm.
3. Ice caps... melting... Al Gore... Any of this ring a bell?
Also, I think that we might be able to expand onto Mars sooner than possible. New technologies are being created everyday. Sooner or later, NASA will send like, 300 spaceships full of algae mixed with some super-growth formula made by nerds in labs. We'll have moved there by June. XD
Though there has been a slight shrinking trend over the past 30 or so years, but they've been growing slightly since 2007.
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Okay, Global Warming is not a joke. If you had any form of modern education, you would know that. Ever seen the Inconvenient Truth?
Then again, when the ice caps melt, the world overheats, and everybody dies from pollution, I guess I'll have a reason to laugh at you when I become one of the last to survive on Planet Earth by hiding in my freezer.
It's hypothesized
lol. Okay, I made a mistake with the 700 ppm thing. That was the level scientists say will be reached by 2050. Just made a teeny-tiny-mistake. the current level is at 385ppm.
Also, about the plants part, I'm pretty sure that plants do not need Co2 to survive, it's just nature's little added bonus. Though I could be wrong.
you cant build an atmosphere
lol. Okay, I made a mistake with the 700 ppm thing. That was the level scientists say will be reached by 2050. Just made a teeny-tiny-mistake. the current level is at 385ppm.
Also, about the plants part, I'm pretty sure that plants do not need Co2 to survive, it's just nature's little added bonus. Though I could be wrong.
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