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Klaushouse
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You are stupid.

Some of you stupid people do not understand how much money it costs to keep this site running. You have a even harder time understanding the complexity of Dan not having multiple money trees planted in his back yard beside his flying unicorns. Dan spends hundreds if not thousands making sure this site stays up and running for thousands of little children.

http://lh4.google.co.uk/charliechia/RwHQxG96fRI/AAAAAAAAAYo/od3WZw50cX4/s400/money_tree%20copy.jpg
This is not Dan, or his backyard.

Why do you like this site? Probably because it's very simple to register, join, login, play free games and talk to other kids. But this great and simple design didn't just appear. People were payed to design it, code it, and make so simple that a kid can come on and instinctively know what to do, making sure you have the best time possible, and this isn't cheap. At all. Not only does he pay coders/designers, but he pays game makers, quite substantial amounts of money to make the best games you all love. And he pays them a lot, if any of you pay attention you will know some people get thousands of dollars for a single game.

http://www.undeadreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/the_last_stand_2.jpg
This cost Dan thousands of dollars, and you pay $0 to play it.

But hey! All these great features, we must be paying a lot for this much free games, and user easy of access! How much? Oh wait nothing! But wait a second... let's do some off the top of my head math...

Dan + No User Fees = Expensive To Maintain Website

No that just doesn't sound around right. There must be a missing factor.

Dan + No User Fees + X = Expensive To Maintain Website

Now let's brain storm and see what X could be that keeps this site running, oh wait no I know, ads! So the equation goes like this:

Dan + No User Fees + Ads = Expensive To Maintain Website

Now in reality the equation is much more complex but we will keep it simple for you. But what happens if you take the ads away from the equation? It's like taking away the 4 from 4 + 2 = 6, it just won't make sense or work out. Which is why they exist.

http://tonova.typepad.com/thesuddencurve/images/2008/08/16/hillbilly.jpg
Average AG user trying to keep up with my math.

[quote]Don't worry guys, don't like ads? Use ad blocker! So cool!

Says 'Stupid Child A'
But aren't the ads there for a reason? Or why else would they be there?

Says 'Moderately Smart Child B'
Don't be stupid, ads are just there to annoy us, they don't mind if we block them, makes no difference!

Replies 'Stupid Child A'
Oh okay, I guess that makes sense Stupid Child A. Thanks for pointing that out to me, let's go whine about Sonny 3 and how it's taking forever just after Sonny 2 came out a week ago!

Says 'Recently Deemed Stupid Child B'
Yeah let's go!

Finishes 'Stupid Child A'[/quote]

By blocking ads to make your petty lives easier, you are making harder for Dan to keep the site running, because he gets less money because of it. You block ads and this makes him want to keep this site under his management less and less, because money will soon come out of his pocket, money he works hard for, and deserves to keep. By blocking ads you are ensuring that this site won't survive for long. You will keep whining that the site has ads until he can't afford to run the site and either:
A) Sells it off to someone who will change the site to your dislike.
B) Make the site pay-2-play, so you will all have to pay.
C) Close the site in it's entirety.

http://io9.com/assets/resources/2008/02/1984_movie_big_brother.jpg
The future of ArmorGames due to Ad-Blockers.

You whine, but you pay nothing. If you were all ready to pay money yourselves, then complain, but if you don't like the idea of a pay to view website, you better expect a few ads. Think of the ads as your donation/fee to Dan to keep the site up, by blocking them you are trying to view the site without even paying the little minuscule entrance fee.

I don't mind ads, but now they are popping up in front of my screen and on the sides of the site! Normal ones are fine but they are now literally littering my screen to a point where I can't navigate the site.

Would you like to know who is to blame? Yourselves. This is a direct consequence of all you stupid kids who block ads, and lose Dan money.

Lets say it cost 10 dollars to run the site(it's not $10, but just as an example to explain). And the ads pay for let's say 11 dollars.
This 10 dollars goes to maintaining the site, and the extra dollar is put aside to save up and make the site even better. This comes to us as additional content or upgrades to the site/forum.

Now lets say that the ads pay for 11 usually, but now because people are blocking ads, he only gets 9 from them instead of 11. So this means he can't afford maintaining the site, let alone adding new things to it! How can this be? He will need to find a new way to make up for the 2 dollars he loses because of kids like you who block, and how does he do this? He compensates for the loss by making the other users who don't block, have even more ads. Annoying ads that appear on the sides and even over the site are there because he needs those to compensate for the loss of money generated by those who block ads. So not only are you making more ads appear by blocking, but you are making sure that he can't make enough money to update the site. You all complain new features never come on the site, and that is mainly because all the money that WOULD go to updating AG goes right into maintaining the normal site, due to losing money from blockers.

http://xjtian94.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/internet-advertising.jpg
Frontpage of Armorgames if enough people start blocking ads.

I hope you stupid kids semi understand this, so that you stop blocking the site. Because you are the main cause of it's lack of updates and increased ads. So unless you have a check ready to be payed to ArmorGames every month to ensure it staying up, I suggest you shut up and live with the ads.

P.S. I said stupid 6 times in this, almost a personal record.
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MrDayCee
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King

Well, a limit is ok, but not desired, since they ARE the only source of income for AG...
But a more careful placement of them IS something to be desired in this matter! The 'hover-ads' for instance should not be placed near a game, because they disrupt the play and get people mad for no reason...

TharosTheDragon
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Farmer

I LOVE ADS!

Without ads, you would have no free games. Period.

Please, let no one here have any delusions to the contrary.

I do not want ads to be completely banned, but at least there should be a limit to them.


Are you nuts? Who do you think you are, telling the site they should make less money?

Well, a limit is ok, but not desired


NO! A limit is most certainly not ok! You don't want ads, start paying for games! People don't expect to watch TV without commercials, so why expect that with Flash games?

Any annoyance that anyone feels toward ads is completely and totally neglible compared to the immense benefits they serve.
ShadowWave
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Nomad

well i think its just the new ones that come up from the bottom of the screen that are annoying :}{:

MrDayCee
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@ Tharos: Hey, you know, you ARE right about that, 100% completely right!

But you don't agree that when some ads that are not carefully placed on a website and in that proces could interupt someone's game while he/she was playing it, it will most certainly be a cause for that person to leave AG behind him/her and never look back at it... and that's something we wouldn't want to see happening, do we?

Therefor I suggested that some ads, meaning the ones that could very well be a nuisance to a gamer because they are interupting his game, should be placed on another (less annoying) spot on the website...

This way both the ad-companies as well as the gamers get what they want...

>>> Free games supported by advertisements! <<<

*starts dancing around the room, clapping his hands and singing a ridiculous song*

Oh, sorry about that... :S

insanelewd
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Nomad

We understand all that about the ads and reading what you said made me feel smarter.

insanelewd
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insanelewd
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Nomad

Don't rant on things that you are not really involved in.

MrDayCee
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King

We understand all that about the ads and reading what you said made me feel smarter.


Don't rant on things that you are not really involved in.


To who are you directing this post? Tharos or me? LOL

Since we are users/members of AG, we are involved in this matter if you ask me...
TharosTheDragon
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Farmer

Yes, I agree completely that the rollover ads should be dealt with. I was playing Final Ninja, clicked on one accidentally, and it brought up a window right over the game screen. Those things take a few seconds to load for me, and you can't even close the window before it finishes loading. So for a few seconds you're stuck, not viewing an ad, not playing a game, nothing, just looking at a blank loading screen. I died because of it and lost several minutes of level progress.

Newbie055
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I'm not sure if anyone else gets the pop-up where it says you have a virus on your computer. I've seen it twice so far and by my experience these contain viruses. So why are they on here?

Freakenstein
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Armorgames doesn't put those ads there. The pop-up saying you have a virus IS a virus, but Armorgames does not put those kinds of ads on the site. You may need to run a virus check on your computer.

TharosTheDragon
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Farmer

I'm not sure if anyone else gets the pop-up where it says you have a virus on your computer. I've seen it twice so far and by my experience these contain viruses. So why are they on here?


I've just started seeing those recently as well, and I've seen other people mention them. I'm sure Armor Games wouldn't put up anything like that, but it's curious how that pop-up seems to only happen when we go on AG.
nixonjman
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nixonjman
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Nomad

yee. ads are sick life.

carlos227
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well i understand the concept of costs but weriously dont make the ads popups god one gave my comp a virus

MrDayCee
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I'm not sure if anyone else gets the pop-up where it says you have a virus on your computer. I've seen it twice so far and by my experience these contain viruses. So why are they on here?


This was discussed in this thread too: Anyone else getting malware??.

A lot of users discussed the problem there and it seems that it's something that's not strictly related to AG only... it's something happening to a lot of websites!
Check out that thread for the updates and the discussion on it...

And to make sure everyone gets the whole outlining of the problem...

It's not Armor Games that puts up these Virus-Ads!

Just so everyone knows they can't be blamed for them!
DingusKhan
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It's not AG's fault. This is a nasty little bugger that's been passed around for a couple of years at least. Late last week it appeared that AG had found and rid themselves of it, however today it's back. I had researched it some time back, it is most definately ID'd as a virus. Having it on your computer usually alters you ability to use explorer, taking you to a set of websites you never searched for. The only thing I know to do until it's gone is ctrl alt del and bypass it. DON'T click on it at all!!!

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