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Owen135731
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I understand that People become Vegans because they do not wish to harm animals, but is harming plants any different? Salads were once a living thing as well. Just because it doesn't scream and bleed when it does, doesn't mean it wasn't alive at some point.

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Blu3sBr0s
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Wow...lame...

Just pretend I quoted kirby in the post, above, this one

choazmachine
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People are entitled to their own beliefs. Some eat veggies to be healthy. Some eat veggies because they think that humans are cruel to animals, and they must not be apart of that cruelness. There are many reasons for being a vegan, but what it comes down to is this: no matter what we eat, or why we eat it. . . we are screwed. There isn't infinite space on Earth, nor infinite animals. The Earth isn't designed to hold 7 billion people.

Blu3sBr0s
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The Earth isn't designed to hold 7 billion people.


The Earth wasn't designed for anything.

It's a rock, we happen to live on it.

Who says we can't do whatever we want with it?

Who says we can't MAKE it work?

I love the environemtn as much as the next guy, but overpopulation whiners annoy me =P

It's the LEAST of our problems.
thoadthetoad
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Just because it doesn't scream and bleed when it does, doesn't mean it wasn't alive at some point.

I've always theorized it was because animals can still be considered sentient, while plants cannot. However I think that's debunked because a plant can evolve... but still, that's what I'll stick with for now.

Ms zoph, please feel free to rip me a new one
Veobahamut
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Well I eat people.

Owen135731
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Carnivore? Hmmm...you are the first legit human carnivore I've see Owen


I said I eat my...I did not include that I don't eat plants

Well I eat people.


Thats...nice
Pois0nWasHere
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I said I eat my...


My...?

*snickersnicker*

I had a vegan cookie, once. Was better than any other cookie I've ever had. That's why I like going to planet smoothie. But that's off topic. I think. Um... To be healthy? I dunno. It's just someone's choice.
Owen135731
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I said I eat my...[quote]My...?
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Try to double quote...lets see how that works.

But anyways, I meant to write "meat" not "my". Stupid early mornings :/
kyocat64
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But if ppl just eat plants then there will be less food for the animals and they will die anyway =/ Just stick with being a normal human being and be a Omnivore

assassin89
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My sisters a vegitarian I understand why she does it. I would give up meat aswel but I couldnt live without it.

Bux99
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All i am saying is, what are your canine teeth for?
Tearing apart:

MMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!

Zophia
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I think meat eaters are doing every one a favor because we eat cows, which give off gases which hurts the worlds o zone layer and plants turn most of the gases into good thing that we need like oxygen.
Consider how many animals exist in this world purely to later serve as processed food for people.

Personally I'm a vegetarian, but I do not reject to eat meat because it is dead animals or "similar to humans".[quote]Oh...for what reason(s) then? *is curious*
[/quote]I have never learned to consider meat food or appreciate the taste, so when I look at a piece of meat I generally consider it useless garbage, or something to feed a carnivore (like a cat or dog).

Also, I absolutely detest the way animals are bred and kept in large amounts only to become food. How chickens are treated like they're made of edible plastic and not alive at all...
If you want to eat living things, at least treat them like living things before you kill them.

I always thought it was foolish - morality doesn't extend to instinct, and humans eat meat and plants due to our instinct. We're supposed to be omnivorous, and it isn't immoral to eat what we're designed to eat.
I'm pretty sure you could argue rape is instinctual too. Maybe a bad instinct - but still.
Morality is something we have to have something OTHER than instinct to go by in this world.

Vegans, however, bug me just a bit. You can't even drink milk? C'mon. What's up with that?
Technically... WTF is up with drinking a fluid meant to help a little cow grow up? I mean, it came out of that weird soft thing attached to the cow's belly. WTF!

Milk is one of my favorite liquids to drink, but it seriously doesn't make much sense.

People who don't eat eggs because they think it "harms the chicken" are just stupid. If the chickens didn't lay those eggs, they'd die, so people who eat eggs are actually doing the chickens a favor.
The species of chickens bred for egg laying actually lay an unnaturally high amount of eggs. This means they're likely to wear their bodies out because they produce so many eggs.
And your argument is technically the same as 'you have to eat your neighbour's poop, he'd die if he didn't get it out of his body'.

I'm not against eating eggs, I'm against bad arguments.

But if ppl just eat plants then there will be less food for the animals and they will die anyway =/
Less plants are required to make people full, than to make enough animals to make people full with full.
So resources are actually saved if you just skip the part of making plant material into animal flesh, and just eat the plants directly.

All i am saying is, what are your canine teeth for?
Human teeth are omnivorously designed. But compare our canines to carnivores... We barely have them. Incisors and molars, on the other hand...
Cenere
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Eggs are naturally laid to reproduce, which means after mating on most parts. Chicken usually never mate in their lives, thus the eggs are there only to feed humans, and the chickens are breed to the one use to make eggs.
/Random

Also, hiding due to not wanting to provoke a vege-rage on me again...

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I can understand not wanting to eat meat that comes from big bussiness farms that overcrowd and unnaturally raise their stock. Fully understandable! But any animal that is naturally hunted or raised on a family farm is fair game. The animals aren't being abused and they live their life, and us humans are staying on top of the food chain where we belong.

Humans evolved so that they can eat meat and plants because us humans are very fragile creatures! If we were purely carnivores or herbavores, we would have died out and gone extinct a long time ago. Having the advantage of eating both plants and animals is what helped us expand our food sources and allow us to live. Now we don't need meat to survive, but why stop altogether?

Can we live on nothing but vegies and fruites? Sure, but the only other reason other than the one I mentioned earlier is because you don't want to harm an animal or eat another living creature who has flesh and blood like your own. If you don't like eating meat, I'm not going to stop you. I eat meat. I enjoy meat. Nothing like a good burger or steak. It doesn't bother me.

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Im sorry, But anyone who thinks that being a vegetarian or vegan is actually doing anything but helping you masturbate your own psychology, you are sadly mistaken. On the scale of the planet there is little to no differences between a pig and a carrot besides the fact that a pork stew only takes one life where a spout sandwich is literally killing hundreds of lives just to get your stomach half full. If you are planning on caring for things that only exist on your time scale you are as backwards and misguided as the people who slaughter millions of animals a year. Please planet earth, get your head out of your ass.

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