At school, i recently had a arguement with a friend about what is Athieism and what is Scientology. he is under the assumption that Athieism is when you believe in evolution, and i think it is when you believe in nothing, whom (who?) is right. is scientology the belief in evolution (i call it Darwinism sometimes, when you believe in evolution that is). am i right or is he right?
It sounds like to me like people are confused so here let me clear up some things. First Anarchy is with the government which is a state where society runs it self.(Absolutely nothing to do with religon{fine depends on the way you look at it(so)}) Second we all have our beliefs but to insult a religion is like a white guy beating up a black guy because (obviously) out of race. That's all I have to say.
People aren't confused here. There's just one person who needed to be corrected, that's all. But that is obviously a well-made post.
"Let us not forget the great Richard Dawkins, who finally freed the world of religion long ago. Dawkins knew that logic and reason were the way of the future. But it wasn't until he met his beautiful wife that he learned using logic and reason isn't enough: you have to be a **** to everyone who doesn't think like you."
Throughout history, most governments have involved religion.
Most governments have involved religion you say? Even if that were true(I do not wish to see if it is), then how does that affect anything? Non-religious governments, such as the USA, are not anarchy simply because they have no religion within their government. Because they have a government. Therefore, it is not anarchy. And that does not even apply to what you said. Admit defeat and go home.
Throughout history, most governments have involved religion.
My god, you're arguing against points I'm not making. That's sooooooo win.
JUST BECAUSE LOTS OF GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED BY RELIGION DOESN'T MEAN ATHEISM IS ANARCHY, DAMMIT! Atheism is the opposite of belief in god not the opposite of religion.
You need to stop even posting on atheism topics altogether until you've gotten a good idea of what the hell atheism really is.
Maybe what TheDude42 is saying is that atheism destroys the belief in the Absolute Authority, and that leads to destorying any belief in authority and that leads to anarchy because you don't belive no one has the authority to rule over you. Then he's saying that all the Kings and Queens along the history of Christianity invoked God to give them authority to rule, due to the idea of there being Noble, or picked by God's Hand. So if the villagers believe in God then they have to obey. Even the USA uses the idea of God in the same way as the nobles did back then.
In GOD we Trust.
So then we have the atheists. In Whom do they trust? The government is lying to them when it says their trust is in God, when it's not. So this destroys the atheists' belief in govermnent authority and now they are just thinking of ways to get rid of it, stupid anarchists.
Maybe what TheDude42 is saying is that atheism destroys the belief in the Absolute Authority, and that leads to destorying any belief in authority and that leads to anarchy because you don't belive no one has the authority to rule over you. Then he's saying that all the Kings and Queens along the history of Christianity invoked God to give them authority to rule, due to the idea of there being Noble, or picked by God's Hand. So if the villagers believe in God then they have to obey. Even the USA uses the idea of God in the same way as the nobles did back then.
But that's just not how it works. God is not the center point for order in society - government is. Many governments are influenced by religion, but government itself was and is not reliant on the concept of a god. Take Russia for example. It's not in the least bit religious, and it has a huge (and overwrought) government.
Atheism does not destroy belief, it just doesn't take part in it. Atheists are not these anarchic renegades you and dude are making them out to be. You guys are fantastically overestimating the influence of god on the order of society - most early religions sprang up for governmental purposes, meaning that there was government, or the idea of authority, before there was a god. Atheism has absolutely nothing to do with anarchy, and crazy tangents aren't going to change that.
Atheism is purely a belief on the existence of a god, and it influences little else. Atheism is completely separate from political beliefs, and just because politics and religion are linked doesn't mean atheism and anarchism are. It's absurd to think that.
Sorry yielee, you're confused. I said *Russia* not the Soviet union. Modern Russia. It has a huge government that is almost completely non-religious - same thing with places like the UK, Estonia, France, Japan, all of them have large, liberal, non-anarchic governments and are not religious in the slightest. Like I said, God is not synonymous with authority, atheism is not the direct opposite of religion, and religion is not the basis of all governments. Your guys' points blow the importance of religion and the differences between atheism and religion way too far.
Also, a lot of the population of modern Russia is relifious, but the government isn't really. But the UK is a better example - unabashedly atheist and no anarchy.
