ForumsWEPRWithout War, Can there really be Peace?

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Topic. I have an extreme hate for OPs, since they tend to try and shift the reader to one side or another. Therefore, I don't right one, unless I am explaining something.

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balerion07
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The beginnings of World War 3: What did you say bout my mama's upper lip?

Deth666
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With the world population rising way faster than the amount of scarce resources can be naturaly reproduced, i think sadly war will be more, not less likely in the future. you can say what you will about increased global communications, and awareness on war's futility etc., but really none of that matters when you don't have enough to eat or drink or a place to live.


I agree the whole Road Warrior future is more and more likely every day. The population doubles every 70 years. In a very short amount of time the world will not have enough resources to sustain the human race. Wars over those resources are extremely likely, even today.

The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice. And in this maelstrom of decay, ordinary men were battered and smashed. Men like Max. The warrior Max. In the roar of an engine, he lost everything. And became a shell of a man, a burnt out, desolate man, a man haunted by the demons of his past, a man who wandered out into the wasteland. And it was here, in this blighted place, that he learned to live again..
balerion07
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The UN has estimated that we could easily stabilize the human population at 11 billion.

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Wars over those resources are extremely likely, even today.


Exactly, large scale warfare is occuring as we speak (well, type), just not in Europe/America.

The next big thing is probably going to be fresh water. With supplies drying up in hotter countries due to climate change, more people are going to have to move country, which most cant do due to poverty, or fight over whats left.

The UN has estimated that we could easily stabilize the human population at 11 billion.


That would mean equal distribution of resources, and somehow i cant see western countries being too keen on that.
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Why do people always forget about the age old practice of distilling water? That easy little practice ensures that there will never be a true cause for water wars. And as for the population stabilization, that was for the world as is, not after vast resource redistribution. We currently grow enough food to feed 8 billion, the problem is how much of it ends up getting wasted.

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Why do people always forget about the age old practice of distilling water?


Because people in african countries do not have the education, or are able to afford the equipment necessary to get water in that way.

Its also not a great method for sustaining very large populations as it takes quite a while to get a large quantity of water.
balerion07
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It takes only as long to get the water as it takes to boil it. As for equipment, it has been done for hundreds of years and only requires a source of heat, a metal container, water, a tube, and something to catch the water in. And the only way it isn't good for a large population is if you use a tiny little pot instead of producing it on a much larger scale.

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It takes only as long to get the water as it takes to boil it.


A hell of a long time, if you plan on using it to sustain a large population. The volume of water would be massive. Plus you needa lot of fuel to heat that much water, which is expensive.

And the only way it isn't good for a large population is if you use a tiny little pot instead of producing it on a much larger scale


Please explain how a tiny african village in the middle of nowhere would get access to this equipment, or better yet how a larger village/town would sustain itself off this method. Theyd ned thousands and thousands of litres every day. I cant see distillation providing this amount.
balerion07
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1) This is talking about a quite distant future in which all of the current well digging would hot have the huge successes that are current in bringing clean water to the villages that live in extreme poverty.

2) Many water distillers operate via solar energy.

3) Water distillation and desalination is already used worldwide to make water drinkable for the populous.

As a joke, here is a lame video and all we need to do is ship lots of pie pans, small bowls, and saran wrap to Africa.

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Exactly, large scale warfare is occuring as we speak (well, type), just not in Europe/America.

There has never been any extended time(more then a few years) in history were there has not been any war, it has always happened and everyone always acts like its something new.
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In a perfect world, there would be all peace and no world. Suck it up. We live in an evil world, with evil dictators. But, to be scientific. One of them doesn't actually exist. Darkness, is the absence of light. If there was no light. There would be no darkness, because darkness is the absence of light. But, remember this, light overpowers darkness. The absence of itself.

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Holy crap that was a messed up statement.


In a perfect world, there would be all peace and no world.


should be:

In a perfect world, there would be peace, and no evil.
rafterman
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Darkness, is the absence of light. If there was no light. There would be no darkness, because darkness is the absence of light. But, remember this, light overpowers darkness. The absence of itself.

That makes no sense at all, first you say that darkness is the absence of light, then you say that if there was no light(and absence of light) there would be no darkness.
Darkness only exists where light does not, it there is no light there is always darkness.
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That makes no sense at all, first you say that darkness is the absence of light, then you say that if there was no light(and absence of light) there would be no darkness.
Darkness only exists where light does not, it there is no light there is always darkness.


This is a quote for people that dont understand the basic quote, light and dark are the sides of a coin, without one, the other is none existant, there are good wars, the wars to end wars, and bad peace, or tyranny, think about it, we need one for the other
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Peace/darkness can only exist in a place when war/light do not.

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