Do I have to report both of you, or are you going to quiet down and give this nonsense a rest? You know who you are. Watch me; you flame each other one more time on this thread, I will do it.
There have been a lot of times where Atheists got their ***** kicked by the intelligence of some Christians... we can be WAY smarter than ANY Atheist in the world. So shut it.
There has yet to be any creationist who has won a religious debate with a real scientist.
Stoning non conformists is part of science. Stoning conformists is also part of science. Only those theories that can stand up to a merciless barrage of stones deserve consideration. It is the Creationist habit of throwing marshmallows that we find annoying...
The earth as a whole, has such a complexity and sooo many obvious coincedences to create life, it couldn't have just been scientifically, or even luckily created this way. It is the perfect position away from the sun, it has the exact proper amount of oxygen needed for human life (if it was higher or lower we as humans, animals, and even plants would die). The world as a whole is shows such an intelligent design it had to be created from a designer (for christians we believe it was God). I mean when you walk across say a beautiful painting in a museum, you wonder to yourself "who could draw such a beautiful thing"... Same goes with the earth. Who designed such a beautiful thing? And again I believe God did.
It was one hell of a dice roll. It could have also been Venus or Mars, but they just weren't positioned correctly and had too much CO2 in their atmosphere. All of those planets in the solar system could have had the chance to be fertile, but no, they were not in the correct spot to BE fertile. But hey, we're going to end up like Venus one day, so maybe other worlds may look upon us and say we never existed.
Something just can't come from nothing. It wasn't just there, it has to be made, basically like a molecular compound. Two or more molecules are formed to make this molecular compound. Christians believe God did this... Athiests believe a big bang or something else.. But what caused that???
Another universe. I've repeated this so many times, it just makes sense. The universe is constantly expanding, and when it gets to the point where it is too big, it just collapses. Not even gravity itself could contain the entire mass of the universe discombobulating all at once. Since nothing inside the universe is held together by gravity, everything inside just dissipates, until there is nothing but straight atoms. Once everything just dissipates, it contracts. More and more of the universe contracts, until gravity once again can grab more and more of the universe together. All of this matter is combining together, until at one point, everything is sucked in to one massive amount of raw energy (hey that sounds exactly how the big bang started!). The raw energy just gets hotter and hotter from all the atoms just moving at an extremely fast rate but still being held together, then something happens. Atoms go too far and they hit one another, splitting them. When an atoms splits, it goes ballistic and shoots off, possibly hitting more. When every single bit of matter in the universe is clumped together, there is a high rate in which these atoms can hit off each other, split more, and cause pandemonium within the ball of raw matter. What's the mechanics of an atom bomb I wonder? Splitting atoms, having them split others, and using the raw force of the energy to fly off and cause destruction! In this sense, it is not really an "atom bomb" because there is nothing in the universe to hit and obliterate, so all the atoms do is fly off at a tremendously-fast rate. We are talking like 200xAUs here (exaggeration). The atoms that stay together clump up, heating together and fuse (where we get our higher elements on the periodic table). What the planets are composed of is the result of this expansion of raw energy. They can be modified to a small tweak (like Venus with tons of CO2 in the atmosphere), but the overall composition of the planets is not changeable.
So you see, in this logical and scientific sense, the universe is like God. It creates universes and sets in stone the series of events that eventually lead to life, it is everlasting, and more or less too complex to fully comprehend
at this time. Whether or not to think about is which universe are we in? There have been many before us, and there will be many after us, since the universe is one big recycling system.
