It is not about winning... ok maybe it is about winning, but still one can do so with grace instead of shoving an opponent into the dirt and then proceeding to kick them.
I think Georgia's graph was rather brilliant. Political affiliation aside, History has shown Democrats are better at managing cash
I'm 100% with the fact that Bush drove us into depression, and... Why did we need to go to war? Just look at his fathers history from the first gulf war. Put aside the motives, his father left the war with million dollar contracts.
Idk.
To be honest, I'm sure that if there was someone qualified to lead neither Hillary or Obama would be good enough for Pres. in my mind -- then again, all the hype would probably make it ineffective for someone to try anyway. Lol
Georgia, thank you for bringing the graph back up as it yet again reaffirms my point that $7 trillion of the $12 trillion debt of our country is owned by the PEOPLE not the GOVERNMENT. Did George Bush make you take out that loan on a house you cannot afford? Is he responsible for the Average American having $9000 in credit card debt. No. That is people living outside of their means.
You ARE in Europe. Remember?
Location doesn't change citizenship, but I was having similar thoughts.
Orion I am VERY thankful that I am not the only one on this entire place that realizes that the economy is none of the governments business. This isn't China. And indeed the wars are still necessary. Either we fight the war over there or they bring it here. Personally I don't want more lives lost in attacks like the failed attempt in December. Think of how many deaths that would have resulted in...
Sorry for the double post, but Blade I must say that this one chart does not at all prove what you claimed. You must realize the circumstances in place at the time. When Clinton was in office the economy was booming larger and larger and thus revenues increased a HELL of a lot. That is the sole reason any debt was paid. Note that it continued to climb until his second term when the extra cash started pouring in.
Obviously it is up 2 trillion from when Clinton took office. This is a big deal. Perhaps all the billions of unused stimulus money will not ever be put into use and it can be repaid. We can only hope. That is why I say taxes should be increased (when the econmomy improves of course) for the sole purpose of paying our debts with the government not being able to use said increase upon any of their pet projects.
Note: The defecit that Clinton paid off was defecit that acrrued during his own term. Even though he paid some of it back his term in office still added to the federal debt. I like how that was conviniently overlooked...
The economy collapses if it isn't regulated, unfortunately every time new regulations are made people find a way around them.
I have to disagree. I belive in Lassie Faire (sp?)economics. Government regulation CAUSED a large part of the collapse. It is rarely talked about but the morons regulating the banks forced the banks to give loans to people that never ever should have gotten them. The banks had no choice but to do as ordered. The government wanted credit available for everyone, and they made it so. Said people were not able to pay back the loans that banks never wanted to give them to begin with and forclosures struck all over the nation. Please sir, explain to me where my logic went wrong. The debt owned by the people soared from the previous $4 T to the current $7 T.
Grr. Let me note that im on a freaking windows 95 right now. On dial up. The Great Depression had many causes. You cannot ignore the impact of our Governments decision to loan Germany all the money to repay their repartion loans or the fact that the banks of Europe were rebuilt by loans given by our banks. Loans which they could not pay back when our banks needed the money returned.
You cannot ignore the impact of our Governments decision to loan Germany all the money to repay their repartion loans or the fact that the banks of Europe were rebuilt by loans given by our banks. Loans which they could not pay back when our banks needed the money returned.
You also can't ignore what all the super rich people were doing to the stock markets and with their companies.
windows 95
One of the best windows OSs, especially because its not really an OS.
