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playaholic

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Posted January 31, '10 11:38am UTC

i dont think so,he started quie badly cos it was like this in the first place,and he tried controlng the environmental damage,but,yeah,he focused on healthcare a little too much to build jobs,kinda did a wrong move,but im still rooting fo him,though i dont really bother......

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iamnotironman

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Posted January 31, '10 1:19pm UTC

No,he's not a bad president.I think he will do what he says and it's not his fault about the economy it's George Bushe's!Oh yeah,its not like John McAin oor Hillary Clinton would've done better.(or anyone that says he's bad)

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TheTerminator

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Posted January 31, '10 9:17pm UTC

Obama is by all means not a bad president. He is not one of the best president's our country has had, but not one of the worst. Obama walked into office with 2 wars, a recession, some of the largest insurance companies, banks, and car companies on the brink of total collapse. He's spent more than any other president because he had to, unless all of you would rather watch the economy of the United States and inevitably the world fall into a spiraling deathdive. He also walked in with 2 wars going on, started by the previous president. He's done everything in his power to get this country back on track, and it almost is. He's only been in 1 year. It took Bush 8 years to ruin this counrty.

Government regulation CAUSED a large part of the collapse.

Look everyone, gaze upon this wonderful example. This...is a glimspe of...(drumroll) American stupidity! *Gasp*

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tomertheking

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Posted February 1, '10 4:36am UTC

Obama walked into office with 2 wars, a recession, some of the largest insurance companies, banks, and car companies on the brink of total collapse.

And he is with them now.

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balerion07

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Posted February 1, '10 7:36am UTC

No,he's not a bad president.I think he will do what he says and it's not his fault about the economy it's George Bushe's!

Ignorance like this just pisses me off. GEORGE FUCKING BUSH IS NOT THE FUCKING PRESIDENT. Recessions happen all the time. Recessions are supposed to be a GOOD thing by killing off businesses that have bad practices. Instead we have rewarded them by giving them lots of money to keep afloat companies that need to go bankrupt. I am not talking about banks, but FFS let AIG die already. If Barack Obama cannot accept that this is now his mess to deal with and quit harping about the last president he needs to just step down. He has been in charge for a year dammit! This is now his problem and if he cannot fix it then he is screwed. He cannot spend the rest of his presidency blaming everything on GWB. Of course looking at his speech the other night he may try to blame everything that happens during his presidency on GWB all the way to his deathbed. Obama is president and he should STFU and do something about it instead of constantly saying its not his fault. Are Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover the sole reasons why the Great Depression happend? Hell no. Now get your head out of you ass and pay attention to the real world where a president has to take credit for his presidency and inability to get things done.

Kirby just feel free to forget everything I said about trying to be nice.

[quote]No,he's not a bad president.I think he will do what he says and it's not his fault about the economy it's George Bushe's![/quote]\r\n\r\nIgnorance like this just pisses me off.  GEORGE FUCKING BUSH IS NOT THE FUCKING PRESIDENT.  Recessions happen all the time.  Recessions are supposed to be a GOOD thing by killing off businesses that have bad practices.  Instead we have rewarded them by giving them lots of money to keep afloat companies that need to go bankrupt.  I am not talking about banks, but FFS let AIG die already.  If Barack Obama cannot accept that this is now his mess to deal with and quit harping about the last president he needs to just step down.  He has been in charge for a year dammit!  This is now his problem and if he cannot fix it then he is screwed.  He cannot spend the rest of his presidency blaming everything on GWB.  Of course looking at his speech the other night he may try to blame everything that happens during his presidency on GWB all the way to his deathbed.  Obama is president and he should STFU and do something about it instead of constantly saying its not his fault.  Are Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover the sole reasons why the Great Depression happend?  Hell no.  Now get your head out of you ass and pay attention to the real world where a president has to take credit for his presidency and inability to get things done.\r\n\r\nKirby just feel free to forget everything I said about trying to be nice.  ;)

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Moe

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Posted February 1, '10 6:50pm UTC

If Barack Obama cannot accept that this is now his mess to deal with and quit harping about the last president he needs to just step down.

He isn't complaining about bush, he's yelling at
Republicans in general because they are stopping the bills that need to pass to improve the economy.

Obama is president and he should STFU and do something about it instead of constantly saying its not his fault.

Its funny how its not Obama thats saying it was bush's fault. It's everyone else who is trying to teach people that say Obama messed up the economy that it was in fact bush who wrecked it.

Now get your head out of you *** and pay attention to the real world where a president has to take credit for his presidency and inability to get things done.

I like how you are blaming Obama for things that happened BEFORE he was president. He has been trying to fix this country, but congress has been moving as slow as they can to stop him.

[quote]If Barack Obama cannot accept that this is now his mess to deal with and quit harping about the last president he needs to just step down.[/quote]\r\n\r\nHe isn't complaining about bush, he's yelling at \r\nRepublicans in general because they are stopping the bills that need to pass to improve the economy.\r\n\r\n[quote]Obama is president and he should STFU and do something about it instead of constantly saying its not his fault.[/quote]\r\n\r\nIts funny how its not Obama thats saying it was bush's fault.  It's everyone else who is trying to teach people that say Obama messed up the economy that it was in fact bush who wrecked it.\r\n\r\n[quote]Now get your head out of you *** and pay attention to the real world where a president has to take credit for his presidency and inability to get things done.[/quote]\r\n\r\nI like how you are blaming Obama for things that happened [b]BEFORE[/b] he was president.  He has been trying to fix this country, but congress has been moving as slow as they can to stop him.

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TheTerminator

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Posted February 1, '10 8:12pm UTC

I agree with everything that Moe has said. All of this did happen because of the previous presidency. If you walked into a failing business with no hope of survival, and become CEO, then the business does fail, is it your fault? No! Besides give the guy a break, it's only been 1 year into his presidency, and although it hasn't been the best job ever done, its doin O.K. Everyone is expecting the country to revive overnight... its not, deal with it. Things are gettng better.
As a footnote it is a good thing that Obama has decided to support the railroads, this is gonna help the country in so many ways.

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balerion07

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Posted February 2, '10 4:18am UTC

Republicans in general because they are stopping the bills that need to pass to improve the economy.

Dems own the House and the Senate and there is nothing Reps can do to stop them from passing their agenda. It just doesn't keep us from trying.

I like how you are blaming Obama for things that happened BEFORE he was president. He has been trying to fix this country, but congress has been moving as slow as they can to stop him.

I do not blame any President for the Recession. Plain and simple, its a natural economic phenomenon. Talk to the Dem senators they have had to bribe to get them onboard.

Yeah, but this is the worst we've had since the great depression, which was a rather great recession.

Even so the 73-75 Recession was very bad.

You're ignorant yourself; stop calling others ignorant because you don't understand whats going on yourself.

Perhaps I have been a little harsh. When I am so frustrated it is harder to maintain inteligence levels. LMAO. Sure I don't have an economic degree, but recessions do not happen just because of one person in power. Guess hoow many recessions we have had since the Great Depression. Go on guess. Then scroll down.

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Since the Great Depression there have been a total of 13 Recessions in America. Are all those presidents the cause of them as you say GWB is? Not really. Recession is NATURAL! It is supposed to happen. Just because the 90s was (supposedly) the longest period of uninterrupted economic growth America has seen doesn't mean Recessions no longer exist. Look at how Japan fared during their Depression in the 90s.....

[quote]Republicans in general because they are stopping the bills that need to pass to improve the economy.[/quote]\r\n\r\nDems own the House and the Senate and there is nothing Reps can do to stop them from passing their agenda.  It just doesn't keep us from trying.\r\n\r\n[quote]I like how you are blaming Obama for things that happened BEFORE he was president.  He has been trying to fix this country, but congress has been moving as slow as they can to stop him.[/quote]\r\n\r\nI do not blame any President for the Recession.  Plain and simple, its a natural economic phenomenon.  Talk to the Dem senators they have had to bribe to get them onboard.\r\n\r\n[quote]Yeah, but this is the worst we've had since the great depression, which was a rather great recession.[/quote]\r\n\r\nEven so the 73-75 Recession was very bad.\r\n\r\n[quote]You're ignorant yourself; stop calling others ignorant because you don't understand whats going on yourself.[/quote]\r\n\r\nPerhaps I have been a little harsh.  When I am so frustrated it is harder to maintain inteligence levels.  LMAO.  Sure I don't have an economic degree, but recessions do not happen just because of one person in power.  Guess hoow many recessions we have had since the Great Depression.  Go on guess.  Then scroll down.\r\n\r\nA\r\nR\r\nE\r\n\r\nY\r\nO\r\nU\r\n\r\nG\r\nU\r\nE\r\nS\r\nS\r\nI\r\nN\r\nG\r\n\r\nY\r\nE\r\nT\r\n?\r\n\r\nY\r\nO\r\nU\r\n\r\nK\r\nN\r\nO\r\nW\r\n\r\nY\r\nO\r\nU\r\n\r\nW\r\nA\r\nN\r\nT\r\n\r\nT\r\nO\r\n.\r\n\r\nSince the Great Depression there have been a total of 13 Recessions in America.  Are all those presidents the cause of them as you say GWB is?  Not really.  Recession is NATURAL!  It is supposed to happen.  Just because the 90s was (supposedly) the longest period of uninterrupted economic growth America has seen doesn't mean Recessions no longer exist.  Look at how Japan fared during their Depression in the 90s.....

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DDX

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Posted February 2, '10 4:22am UTC

I dunno... but all I know he's screwing my family over when he passes that health care reform bill... both my parents being medical practitioners, they fear that doctors will lose incentive to do well (and we might end up like canada's sh*tty medical system) pardon the language.

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Drace

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Posted February 2, '10 4:29am UTC

I haven't liked any president in the last century.

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DDX

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Posted February 2, '10 4:33am UTC

oh shi.... can someone delete my post before this one? the picture is way too large.

better image...

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not saying he is bad, but since reading over the economic thingy aspect of "obama being a bad president" one must remember the business cycle. there are booms and busts. and generally republicans have a expansionary fiscal policy (spend spend spend) causing the busts. (republicans you must remember are voted into office primarily during boom cycles when everyone wants to pay less taxes (tax cuts and such were george bush's thing) and have more money left over) and democrats are voted into office during recessionary times due to the contractionary fiscal policies used to fill the reserves again so the republicans can spend it all.

I am not saying either party is without faults or is flawless. I am merely stating this based off a few presidency. Obama didn't cause the "recession" per se. rather he was voted into office when there was an impending one.

This is just to clear things up a little. But the recession has nothing to do with presidency completely. the Presidents just have an effect on how big the boom/small or how big/small the bust is

and we have to remember that an economic bust is a recession. and a large bust would be a depression. (recession = 2 quarters of negative GDP depression = 4 quarters)

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oh shi.... can someone delete my post before this one? the picture is way too large.\r\n\r\n[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tBqi5ja-dgs/SwFUeUVKU1I/AAAAAAAABsQ/_KxtMjjTCOY/s1600/big_picture_business_cycle.gif[/img]\r\n\r\nbetter image...\r\n\r\nIron - Duke\r\n\r\n	\r\nFlag\r\n\r\nhttp://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/kinsella-singularity-business-cycle-graph.jpg\r\n\r\nnot saying he is bad, but since reading over the economic thingy aspect of "obama being a bad president" one must remember the business cycle. there are booms and busts. and generally republicans have a expansionary fiscal policy (spend spend spend) causing the busts. (republicans you must remember are voted into office primarily during boom cycles when everyone wants to pay less taxes (tax cuts and such were george bush's thing) and have more money left over) and democrats are voted into office during recessionary times due to the contractionary fiscal policies used to fill the reserves again so the republicans can spend it all.\r\n\r\nI am not saying either party is without faults or is flawless. I am merely stating this based off a few presidency. Obama didn't cause the "recession" per se. rather he was voted into office when there was an impending one.\r\n\r\nThis is just to clear things up a little. But the recession has nothing to do with presidency completely. the Presidents just have an effect on how big the boom/small or how big/small the bust is\r\n\r\nand we have to remember that an economic bust is a recession. and a large bust would be a depression. (recession = 2 quarters of negative GDP depression = 4 quarters)\r\n\r\n\r\n(reposted everything)

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Posted February 2, '10 4:40am UTC

I'm not American and I can't understand why people have problems with the health care reform. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Obama want a public health insurance? Because that's what many countries in Europe have since many years and I think it's a good thing.

The USA have propably the best doctors and hospitals in the world. BUT I saw in TV that there are 50 millions (!!!) people in the US that can't afford medical help...

Talking about foreign politics: unfortunately Obama is sending even more soldiers to Iraq... You can't teach democracy with bombs...

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Snake211

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Posted February 2, '10 4:48am UTC

well let me think no

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DDX

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Posted February 2, '10 5:01am UTC

I'm not American and I can't understand why people have problems with the health care reform. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Obama want a public health insurance? Because that's what many countries in Europe have since many years and I think it's a good thing.

well in doing so, it cap's doctor's potential earnings making them lose incentives to work. In Canada doctors work shifts and are paid per hour and like clockwork 97% of them leave around 4-5. with minimal doctors manning the OR and ER's. so when something bad happens at night. youre screwed. as harsh that it sounds. Health care reform is something we DONT need right now. b/c as long as you get off your *ss and work you should be covered by some health care plan.

well let me think no

please elaborate instead of posting a basically 1 word answer as to think why he isnt bad. ect. ect.

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balerion07

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Posted February 2, '10 5:04am UTC

We don't want to pay the taxes Europe does. The first person to impose taxes that high will face mass rioting. The number of uninsured is around 32 mil or so.

Georgia, you just proved you cannot count. 73, 74, 75.

Shall we compare our IQs to see who is uneducated??? Oh wait, you have been a member for 3 days and don't even have the courteousy to post your age. When you have 1200 posts, I might just be inclined to actually listen to you. As of now you have already showed just how little you know about Recessions. Companies that go bankrupt deserve to die.

Nuff said.

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