ForumsWEPR[necro]Creator? Big Bang? Or God??

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batistarocks6969
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well if any of u r familiar with the law of conservation and mass, then u know that it states that matter cannot be created from nothing, or completely destroyed. so evolutionists say this, then turn around and say the big bang created the universe as we know it. WTF!!?!?!?!the universe went from non existent to existent in a fraction of a nanosecond! and where did the bigbang come from? nothing? nope, because if the law of conservation and mass is true, then the bigbang isnt. simple...

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Arrrgh
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BTW, the "noodly appendage" is from Pastafaria, the One True Faith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Touched_by_His_Noodly_Appendage.jpg/800px-Touched_by_His_Noodly_Appendage.jpg

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lol keep the pics coming.

Arrrgh
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One I made up long ago to put the 'Christian cultists' into perspective:

http://i29.tinypic.com/3092637.jpg

Catholics don't have a sense of humor (like THAT surprises anyone!):
Vancouver Sun - Pastafarian attacked by Catholics

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http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Image:447px-Benito_Mussolini_and_Adolf_Hitler.jpg

I always knew something was fishy about Darwin and Wallace...

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http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/b/bd/447px-Benito_Mussolini_and_Adolf_Hitler.jpg

Argh, botched that one.

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I beleive that the world was created by an all powerful being, but he got bored with us and went to create something else.

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âAs a scienctist, I think that ID (Intelligent Design) is a form of pseudoscience; nothing more, nothing less. Pseudosciences lack the well-designed and carefully-interpreted experiments which characterize the true sciences. ID is popular because it provides the general public with an easily understood âanswerâ to natureâs complexity. Why is it human nature to try to fill the gaps in science with some form of a deity? Nobel laureate Richard Feynman, in his response the Challenger disaster, wrote, âFor a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.â It is too bad that many in the USA have fallen into the ID trap, and are making emotional rather than logical decisions.

That being said, and the more I consider ID and the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) theory, the FSM theory has a lot going for it. First, it should satisfy even the most ardent ID detractors. Secondly, since everyone needs to eat and to believe in something, the FSM theory fulfills these desires. Finally, FSM neatly ties together the many ideas about the creation of the universe. I plan on exposing my students to the FSM theory over a pasta dinner.â
â"Elizabeth Cowles, PhD

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Does anyone even know what pastafarian is? no really...

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I believe in god - but I'm not a christian.
The world is created with such a balance, such perfection (that the human has come to ruin), that it's almost impossible to think there wasn't something behind it. Of course, cells and atoms and such change according to environment, but cells - they are also so perfect..

I don't want to discuss, but even if i don't believe in Big Bang, i don't believe god came down and threw fairy dust so that the universe was created. I don't believe in adam and eve or mostly of the old testament, (and quite a bit of the new testament). I believe god, not as a man, but as something far beyond or understanding created cells and allowed the universe to evolve.

But, when i think about god, i also don't think he is a light or a man. I'm not even sure if its only one person, if there is someone more powerful than him, anything. I just know that there is something out there...

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�As a scienctist, I think that ID (Intelligent Design) is a form of pseudoscience; nothing more, nothing less. Pseudosciences lack the well-designed and carefully-interpreted experiments which characterize the true sciences. ID is popular because it provides the general public with an easily understood �answer� to nature�s complexity. Why is it human nature to try to fill the gaps in science with some form of a deity? Nobel laureate Richard Feynman, in his response the Challenger disaster, wrote, �For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.� It is too bad that many in the USA have fallen into the ID trap, and are making emotional rather than logical decisions.


*rolls his eyes*

Evolution is also pretty easy to understand the basic are strait forward, just like creationisms BASICS. Also while I'm looking around for answers on radiometric dating. How do the evolutionists explain "The Horizon Problem."
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"The Horizon Problem."
What's that? This is the first time Google failed me.
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Talo: Ramen, my brother.

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I say God.. But I'm still working on the *why* and what I would say if/when confronted by a religious/non religious person.

However, what I'm reading being true (being my belief, not applying it to anyone else) than God would give me the words to say when I need them. I'd just like to have the essentials of my faith written down, why I'm talking about it here instead of working on it, I don't know.

I now step down for the next reply to this thread.
Game on.

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If you're Christian, there's a specific area of study for this called Apologetics. William Lane Craig and J.P. Moreland are some good authors on this subject to read about.

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Okay, I'm going to break this down scientifically. With the big bang, you have the entire universe in this infinitely dense and hot point called a singularity. (Kind of like a black hole.) Now, according to Stephen Hawking, a leading physicist on the subject, all current theories of science break down at a singularity. Scientists have not been able to reproduce these amounts of energy in the lab or anywhere else for that matter. However, they are getting closer and closer with the creation of stronger and stronger particle accelerators, most notably the recently completed Large Hadron Collider, based in Europe. When scientists eventually manage to probe these immensely large energies, we may get a glimpse about how the universe began.

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