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Freakenstein
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Car starting of the future: here now! Well...was 1 year ago, but still!

Gist of the topic is, your keys are in the car and it is locked. Oh noes! Have no fear; the keyless entry feature has you punch in a 4-digit number code secret to you and your dealership, and it unlocks the door if the combination was entered successfully! Forget the code? Go to the car dealership that sold your car, verify that the car is indeed yours, and your code will be given to you again. Extra plans include keyless car starting to further increase security, a stretch, but may be on the right track!

http://www.ford.com/about-ford/news-announcements/press-releases/press-releases-detail/pr-lincoln-mks-features-28343

Would this really help others in an emergency? Would this increase security of your vehicle, if one happens upon your keys? Is it really and "effective" feature of future cars? Discuss!

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Freakenstein
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...and the image of one because I put in the wrong link in the middle!

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/images/2008/11/11/mks.jpg

Ernie15
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This would work a lot better if a code was also used to start the engine. Then you wouldn't need a key at all.

Stacey12345
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mike has a car like this form a while ago. this is definitely not new. It may be that they're just starting to come standard with cars, but I know that they're at least 5 years old.

Freakenstein
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This would work a lot better if a code was also used to start the engine. Then you wouldn't need a key at all.


The OP (me) said that it was a stretch in the future. I would personally love it, as it would further increase security of your vehicle.

mike has a car like this form a while ago. this is definitely not new. It may be that they're just starting to come standard with cars, but I know that they're at least 5 years old.


Possibly an inefficient model that isn't as durable and reliable as Ford's of '09? This is where Ford perfected it and is starting to make it commercial with newer models of vehicles.
loloynage2
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looks cool, but is it only for Ford?

Ernie15
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It may be that they're just starting to come standard with cars, but I know that they're at least 5 years old.


It's way older. Lincolns have had them for at least 10 years. I remember because my friend rented one sometime in 2000-01, and the Lincoln was used.

Speaking of Lincoln, today is his 201st birthday...
Mike54321
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Possibly an inefficient model that isn't as durable and reliable as Ford's of '09? This is where Ford perfected it and is starting to make it commercial with newer models of vehicles.


how can one perfect it? its just a passcode. numberpad passcodes have been around forever. i dont really like it on my car, i prefer keys
Stacey12345
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Speaking of Lincoln, today is his 201st birthday...

I have no school on monday because of it. well.. sort of. you know. presidents day. ;-)
Ernie15
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The biggest flaw with this &quotasscode" is that anyone could just take a random guess and hotwire the car and steal it. It's a very slim chance, but it's still somewhat possible.

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It would be better a 5 digits code!

Freakenstein
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The biggest flaw with this &quotasscode" is that anyone could just take a random guess and hotwire the car and steal it. It's a very slim chance, but it's still somewhat possible.


10^4 = 100,000. You have that much of a chance to perfectly guess the pass code.

It would be better a 5 digits code!


10^5 would be a million chance, so yes, it would, but really, there is always "too much security" involved. It's why people hate flying ;-)
SwordAndShield
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Very good. Personally, I have seen this sort of thing before. It is not that special to me, but it looks nice.

DrElmer
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there is always "too much security" involved.


You can never be too careful.
Freakenstein
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At the expense of annoyance? People would get up to about a phone number's worth of number codes before the common masses would pull their hair out in frustration over putting in 10 numbers just to get in the car.

10^10 (100,000,000,000) + annoyance after 2 weeks or so = not a good idea.

DrElmer
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One great thing about these codes is that people probably won't be able to remember them when they're drunk, so at least there will be a lot fewer drunk drivers on the road.

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