I have been in class when suddenly i was interrupted by a mentally retarded kid. Literal retarded. I want to know if you think having mentally challenged kids inn school is more help than harm? It is known that mentally challenged kids do not learn nor get anything out of going to schools, but are put in bec. their parents demanded it.
and when they get in their wheel chairs to go to lunch No one can get around them. and if we are in front of them their adult "helpers" yell at us and say we are in the way.
Don't even remind me about the wheel chairs,the kids in my school have those motorized ones, and I think i've literitly almost been run over at least 10 times this year.
was misguided, i meant that the learning is extremely limited, causing the pay off to not be enough to surpass the annoyance, please disregard my Quote, i was just mad from an annoying day at school with this kid, that is semi-retarded. If he is such a disruption why doesn't he get in trouble? he has said things to me and my classmates and the teachers try to ignore it, he called an obese kid fat many times, threatens to kill me and classmates, also has sworn many times to, he has learning disabilities but knows what he is saying, and still no action taken, bec. people don't want to be mean. He has the right to be in my class, right, privilege, meaning it can be taken away, but in his case he will not be in fear of "being mean", so is trying to be nice more important than my and fellow classmates education?
Omg I feel like we're talking about the same kid,He listens to his Ipod all class and get a friggen calculator on all of his tests, and hes always being a real D-bag to everyone
I have not had any incidents where I saw a mentally ill person doing something that would not be allowed for a person without a disability (in school). I have seen people with disabilities do thing in public (on the street, in stores, etc.). I believe that the only sensible thing to do is to put the children with disabilities in a special education class. They do not even have to be all-day classes. I have a friend who you could easily call retarded. He is unable to write properly. He is though, full functional and can learn anything. He is actually smarter than most of the people in the class.
he has said things to me and my classmates and the teachers try to ignore it, he called an obese kid fat many times, threatens to kill me and classmates, also has sworn many times to, he has learning disabilities but knows what he is saying, and still no action taken, bec. people don't want to be mean.
I believe you and many others have the same problem. You say others don't want to be mean. You are the same. If you were not the same you would have told the dean or principle. They would have taken action. If not you could speak to someone of higher rank is you state "Board of Education". If you don't want to do all that then you have to live with it.
Excuse me for the double post. I mad a mistake. I meant "They would have taken action. If not you could speak to someone of higher rank in your state's "Board of Education".
Also, I forgot to mention, I agree with everyone that says there are people with different "levels" of mental illness.
the people who can walk and talk should be in the school. but if you have to be carted around all day you need to be sitting at home. there is no point. that is a waist of the school's money. and i know that for me school money is really tight. we can barely pay the regular teacher let alone the extra ones who just push a wheel chair all day
I believe you and many others have the same problem. You say others don't want to be mean. You are the same. If you were not the same you would have told the dean or principle. They would have taken action. If not you could speak to someone of higher rank is you state "Board of Education". If you don't want to do all that then you have to live with it.
i know that i will be looked at as a D-bag by the higher ups, maybe, but also they are to afraid to do anything bec. of the fact that they are to afraid to get sued and bec. of the parents.
I think having mentally retarded people in regular schools is a bunch of bull poo.
I hate that there in the same school as us non-mentally retarded kids because there a disturbance to us and last year I had a retarded kid in my class (literally) in the middle of a lesson he screams randomly (this occurs more than once a week, he stares at hot girls and tells people he "thinks" are his friends that teachers, and peers are hot, he causes many fights ex. one time I heard some shouting in the hall and I ran over to the commotion and saw him pushing and calling someone fat then he hit the guy and the guy he hits slugs him in the face and smashes his face in a nearby locker and the retarded kid gets up and keeps attacking the fat kid who takes little to no damage... The kid doesn't belong in a normal society he belongs with other people of his nature in a seperate state with special workers and special everything.
Another thing I find g@y is in the special kids class (there in grade 8) they have a wii, there own computers, there own ipod touches, exercise machine, pizza everyday at lunch for FREE, a desk that shows the ABC (not in cursive), a number line from one to f___ing 100 I don't know when you should be able to count to a 100 but definitely not grade 8 though, they have a picture of colors and the name of the colors and last but not least they had pictures of triangles, squares, circles and the basic shapes with the name under them...
Honestly even though it's not the peoples faults do they belong with non mentally retarded people?
well if it wern't for Hitler there would be alot more re-tards. it is mean but true
That's one thing he did right and I didn't really read any other posts except the first page and I got to say this happened to me alot:
[quote]when they get in their wheel chairs to go to lunch No one can get around them. and if we are in front of them their adult "helpers" yell at us and say we are in the way.
well if it wern't for Hitler there would be alot more re-tards. it is mean but true
Actually, it's not true. People become mentally retarded when they develop genetic disorders, NOT traits that are passed down from generations. These genetic disorders are caused by random and independent mutations in DNA. Therefore, they are not influenced by ancestral traits.
The ultimate purpose of school is not only education, but future occupations. Determing the worth of mentally defecient individuals is also affected by the use of these individuals in the future. The value of these "retards" depends on how beneficial they will become to our future society.
I currently am unable to present statistical evidence, but I'm fairly certain that most mentally inferior individuals will grow up without a useful job. Therefore, there is little incentive to offer them a future in their youth by giving them a proper education, when all they do is distract the "normal" students and waste valuable school funds.
Mentally challenged kids are no different, and honestly they are put there to learn the basic skills and necessities so that they can somewhat function in norm among other people.
It teaches them how to behave and how to act responsible when out in public. I bet you didn't know that they can understand most of what is being said, thus having a learning curve. You do know they at most cases learn more then the guy who shows up because he says he is 'forced to' rather then 'wants to'.
First and formost, I am not going to take a stand point int this debate, rather defend both sides.
On the side of them having there own schools, seeing as there are not many of them, perhaps a few rooms in the school for them. This is the case in our school, though they do mix in with classes through out the day.
Now on the side of keeping them in. They are people as yo uand I are, and there are diffrent levels of it. Some one who is labeled "retarded" Might not be as bad as the kid next to him. Social interactio ncan be a good thing.
Next on the other side. There is a kid in my school who finds it quite allright to hit people. Both boys, and girls. And he is not alittle boy. I shoved him once, after he slapped a girl in the face. He fell over and cried, and I was sent to the office, and given a weeks detention.
NOw why is it, that becuse he is "retarded" Is behavior not enforced. I'm not saying suspend them, just a slap o nthe hand, and a stern talking to.
However, as this dosn't happen, they should be kept out, as they are a danger to them selfs and others.
Well all of you guys who say they are dangerous and hit people, what of the kid next to them, who is not mentally challenged, but is rather angry all the time? He's violent because that's his nature? Lock him in his house too? No, well then why do the special needs kids have to be locked away?
Why? I'm rather sure the law and the constitution provides a pretty nice and thorough thought about educational rights and all that BS.
As for you, Rinjo, I suggest you tell the principal or something -- and if your not man enough to do something like that then there's no point of you complaining. Idc if they are retarded, back in Houston [I live in VA now, nobodies retarded here, idk why ] But there were lots of people in Houston, and we had loads of retarded kids, == some better off than others. The end result was that the most we'd see of them was occasionally in PE and occasionally in the halls. They were for the most part segregated, and they went to school to learn what they could and adapt into familiar society. If you feel they're an interruption, then ask yourself either 1. Do you actually give a ****, and 2. If you do, then why don't you tell someone about it?
Infact, Rinjo, if the teachers are saying deal with it then ask a girl thats been harassed to come with you/go alone to someone that can tell the teachers they're being fking retarded. To be honest, I've never heard of something like that.
