Most people that I've met have said murder, suicide, genocide, holocausts and natural disaster ect... Are horrible, are tragedies and should never happen again, when in reality they are needed because the world would be way more over populated now than it is already because there would have been a hell of alot more people to reproduce babies, if wars, holocausts, natural disasters ect... Didn't happen.
i kind of agree even though it is really bad if all those hadnt of taken place the world would would be even more over populated as it is now allthough if we did just put like a birth control to 1 baby per person that would help but...not too many people would be willing to do that
in reality they are needed because the world would be way more over populated now than it is already
Every cloud has a silver lining. I guess that's the silver lining of the cloud of war. One of the many, anyway. The only one that can be considered a "silver lining" to most living people.
just put like a birth control to 1 baby per person that would help
It's lowering the population in China, but it's leading to infanticide due to the fact that everyone wants a boy. If all parents worldwide were to be that particular about it to kill 50% of children at birth, that birth limit would lower the population quite a bit. Especially because with no females, there can't be any reproduction in the next generation.
Please don't ever run for political office. We just need to use our resources better and maybe start expanding into space. If we didn't waste billions on the crap we do today we could have facilities on the Moon and possibly even Mars. With the correct equipment you could raise pleanty of food there and start spreading out our population. You could also build city ships I guess, but we don't need to mass murder people or restrict people's most basic freedoms. That's a very dangerous road to get started on.
PanzerTank: If you followed a Malthusian point of view, perhaps it might work for you. To be fair, we should exclude natural disasters because they are mostly out of human influence.
For the others, however, I find it morally reprehensible that you would propose such a viewpoint. If you equate, as you do, a list of "murder, suicide, genocide, assassination, wars, and holocausts" as equalling good, I'd say that you are making a loaded assertion just to attract people to your little thread. In fact, the assertion you are making is a logical fallacy. You are, in essence, making an appeal to mortality by saying: "These people were going to die one way or the other. Therefore, it was okay for them to die the way they did."
Well technically yes. If it wasn't for all the disasters that have happened we probably wouldn't be here discussing it or the world could be a worse place.
Panzer tank. Let's put it this way. If every single person in your family, and every friend you have ever had died from a terrorist attack on a plane, would you still feel that way?
So ridiculous. Over population is mostly a myth and a problem that would fix itself when the peak is reached. You can't advocate a humane cause with its opposite means.
Much of the over populating places anyway are the poor countries, which all of those horrible tragedies only make worse. The solution is rather development.
I figured that was your one and only point to this entire thread : population. Is there any other factor involved that would "benefit" because of any form of death that does not relate to population? I thought so.
Natural disasters; there's nothing we can do to stop them, only lessen their strength. Yes, it is sad that many people died from natural disasters and disastrous accidents, but at least this is random. All of the above except natural disasters are all caused by the follies of men and are directed at an individual or a group of people that have wronged the killer(s) in any way. There is nothing random about man-made deaths; there is no random killing of people. It can also be prevented. All of the following except natural disasters have been caused by the emotions of men that could not control how they feel about someone or a group of people.
We might be closer to the population limit, but I doubt we would be there. If the most people that could be supported in a village, with the current flow of resources(which would not change, ever), was 80,000 the population would stay around that, any higher and people would start to die off.
Panzer tank. Let's put it this way. If every single person in your family, and every friend you have ever had died from a terrorist attack on a plane, would you still feel that way?
In overpopulation of a town, city, state, or nation, people would start to die off because of competition. There is a point at which the population density of a city would reach its peak and then slowly or quickly fall back down into stable conditions. Wars, murders, and other such killings are not needed, as the problems would solve itself socially.
Over population with animals works like this: the population grows and grows, until the food supply is strained. The pop goes down a bit and remains relatively level.
I think I should've rephrased my OP a little better... It's not that I really think it's a positively great thing as much as needed of all my listed things. It's not that I like those things, I just try to think of the light behind the shadow of all the listed things I said. I'll say this once again I do not like good innocent people dieing but I think it's needed.
if we did just put like a birth control to 1 baby per person that would help but...not too many people would be willing to do that
China tried that but utterly failed because all of the parents wanted male babies so they could make the family name live on. If the parents got female babies they would either murder them or put them up for adoption. China actually has 30 million more women than males according to my teacher.
we don't need to mass murder people or restrict people's most basic freedoms
Sorry I guess I was a little unclear of this but I don't want to mass murder them with just that on my mind. If there was a mass murder of some sort I was trying to say that it has some good aspects too, lower population which equals more jobs and more food.
How do you sleep at night.
In perfect honest on most nights I sleep poorly, with stomaches, headaches, thoughts ect...
Do you go to bed thinking: Man, those 20,000 people all around the world that died for stupid reasons should have died
No, I goto bed thinking of what would make this world a better place in my perspective.
Man I love life, I can't wait to watch the news and see how many people committed suicide today.
No I'm sad by that but I try to think of the positives too.
