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shadowfyre541
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How ever did communism survive the onslaught of globalisation and democratic beliefs in the 21th century? How can communism still exist after events like the Iron Curtain and the Cultural Revolution? I am not a capitalist, all I want to ask is how society seems so unaffected by these tragic, and sometimes even violent events. Please, share your opinions on this matter, it is much appreciated.

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deserteagle
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In Soviet Russia political system fail you

In America You fail political system


Totalitarianism isn't a fun truth
And false democracy is a fun lie.

DDX
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The reason communism has survived until today. is because people believe in it. much like how religion survived till today.

shadowfyre541
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Its a great theory, but honestly, it can't work without totalitarianism and the oppression of certain rights.

The reason communism has survived until today. is because people believe in it. much like how religion survived till today.


Religion has a workable standpoint talking about the sins of humankind; communism has the belief of complete equality. Not a good comparison.
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Cuba is pretty much the only Communist country out there. The only reason is because they used to be partners with the Soviets, who had nuclear weapons. Otherwise, we would've whipped the Communism out of them.

In all seriousness, though, Communism does have a great appeal to, not only the leaders, but the People, according to Das Kapital. Why? Because it believes in equality, and that everyone has a chance. The bad part, is that the Government provides the equality, making for a strong central government, which is bad and can easily be corrupted.

China is going for a more Free Market economy instead of a Command economy, which will eventually lead to a Socialistic government.

shadowfyre541
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China is going for a more Free Market economy instead of a Command economy, which will eventually lead to a Socialistic government.

China is showing alot of recent improvement lately, but some other countries are still as controlled and closed off as before, such as North Korea.
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There is Christian communism. It is a theological and political theory based upon the view that the teachings of Jesus Christ compel Christians to support communism as the ideal social system.
Communism and religion are quite similar.

Kevin4762
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China is showing alot of recent improvement lately, but some other countries are still as controlled and closed off as before, such as North Korea.


Ah yes. I completely forgot about North Korea. We know North Korea is communist, but the problem is we don't know if they're progressing towards capitalism or a free market economy. It seems as if they'll continue to stay communist if they continue to have nuclear weapons.
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Then why is it I get the same amount of money flipping burgers as a brain surgeon would? Aren't those equal wages given to equal people?

No. It's equal wages given to different people with utterly different skills. Economic (and thus, social) equality is the underpinning of a CLASSLESS society.
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CLASSLESS


If everyone was rich, there would be no classes dividing society.

The same can be said if everyone were poor.

Shouldn't we have the freedom to be any class we want though?
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Soviet Union did not fall because of communism, there were many other reasons.

Drace
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If everyone was rich, there would be no classes dividing society.

The same can be said if everyone were poor.

Shouldn't we have the freedom to be any class we want though?


Lol, what?

Class isn't based on income. Its about someone's relation to the means of productions. Those who own the means of productions and those who have to labor for it. Its a clear distinction.

And you don't quite have the freedom to just be like "oh yeah I want to be a noble!" BAM, you went from being a peasant to a rich landlord.
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And you don't quite have the freedom to just be like "oh yeah I want to be a noble!" BAM, you went from being a peasant to a rich landlord.


No, you have to work at it.
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Well China has been improving by adding a free market and not letting communism fall into the free market. Though I don't really agree with communism.. cause really, it's just not possible for humans. Well I don't live there so.. Good luck to those who do.

Drace
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No, you have to work at it.


Yes of course ^.^

Economic conditions, environmental factors, and the status quo, etc have no role as deciding factors of class.

But of course, its ok to have an exploitative system as long as the few people in the upper classes worked hard at being exploiters.
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But of course, its ok to have an exploitative system as long as the few people in the upper classes worked hard at being exploiters.


Exploitation is normal, and an innate part of human nature.

If you want to be at the top, you have to work at it, and give your children a step ahead in their lives. That is complete human nature, that is what all species are designed to do.

While one might have been born into wealth, their parents or grandparents had to earn it, thus giving them a better life. Isn't that what we all want for our children?
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