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314d1
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I am short on time, so I will keep it short and sweet. For you Christians, were is heaven?

Many modern Christians state that heaven is a place that we can not reach in the physical world. If that is true, than how does the tower of Babel make since?

In the binging of Christianity the Christians believed that heaven is in the sky, as the name and tower of Babel suggest. Then once human were able to fly, Christians said it was further out in space. Once we were able to send satellites into space, they said it was not in the physical realm.

So to recap, were is Christian heaven, how does the Tower of Babel make since if it is not close enough to build to, and to add, if the Tower of Babel story is a metaphor to you could you please state what it is a metaphor for?

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MRWalker82
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Didn't he promise to not interfere with human civilization? (after the flood of course) I'm not sure though since I've never actually read the bible, I'll have to do that one day


Umm... not really. And as far as reading the bible, don't worry about it. Roughly 90% of "christians" haven't read it either. if they can't even bother to read it, why should you? other than to know more about their religion than they do, of course.
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That's the point, can you imagine how much fun it wold be to throw the words of 'a decent proper christian' right back into their faces? I know from an acquaintance of mine that is christian that he created rules that he wouldn't interfere in our affairs, which is the reason he doesn't clear up all the wars, poverty, starvation etc.

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Yes, you heard me correctly, the sun. We can't directly look at it, it's incredibly bright, huge, and yeah...

wtf. sun is a big ball of gas. not heaven.

I have the same idea. I mean its so hot anything near it would burn up and so far there's not a thing we have made to withstand that heat.

there are billions of "suns" in other universes.

And how does that tie in to the idea that heaven is on the sun?

i bet it gets real toasty.

This is would suggest originally the sky was quite clearly related as being heaven.

which is why in pagan society the people referred to the sky as "the heavens" not a "heaven" and then the christians ripped that off of them killed all of them and made them christian, and now we have jesus' birthday on a originally pagan holiday.
314d1
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Didn't he promise to not interfere with human civilization? (after the flood of course) I'm not sure though since I've never actually read the bible, I'll have to do that one day


No, he just promised to not specifically genocide everyone with a flood again. He then put his bow in the sky( to explain the origin of rainbows?) so he would not forget.


The sun would tie into the tower of Babel myth but not the creation myth. If you go by the false translation, then god was said to have built heaven on the first day, and the sun on a latter day.
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The idea of the Earth was flat with Hell below and Heaven above. Since they couldn't fly, they thought it was in the clouds.

Kyouzou
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If you go by the false translation, then god was said to have built heaven on the first day, and the sun on a latter day.




To be specific he created two great light, and the stars, it's theorized that those light are the sun and the moon, but it is very possible that it could be something that we don't know about.
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Guys breaking news...I know where heaven is. Its right next to the Easter bunny and the Tooth fairies house, across the road from Santa's Summer vacation home. I think leprechauns are living under it.

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Question for atheists; Why do you care?

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to explain the origin of rainbows?


Um... no. *high five*
keeton52
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Just for the sake of it, I'm not atheist.

kacboy
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See heaven in the top right.
http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/ashp/inferno_purgatory_paradise_map.jpg
All this is apparently supposed to be under and above Jerusalem.

314d1
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Really? That picture seems to be based on Greek mythology, such as the pushing rocks, the Cerberus, and the river Styx...

And hasn't god committed many of those capital sins, namely pride pretty much all the time, anger at everything, etc...

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Let's not forget jealousy. The bible quotes that God is a jealous god. Also, heaven is the magical place in the sky that does not exist

wolf1991
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god cannot stand before evil


Then what is evil? Is it a thing we call our actions or is it s sate of being? Or is it our nature?
Kyouzou
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So god's committing one of the deadly sins? Has anyone else noticed how much of a hypocrite this omnipotent being is?

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