ForumsWEPRThe chicken egg? Or the chicken?

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Aaliyah928
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Yes, I know a thread with the same title was just locked, but I hope this one will be more intelligent. I would like YOUR opinion, and an explanation of why you see it that way. I myself would have to say the chicken, because of evolution, it could have evolved from a different bird, so it wouldn't be an actual chicken egg, it would be a different species' egg, but the first chicken came from it.

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MRWalker82
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We already established that in the other thread Aaliyah. And anyone with any knowledge of evolutionary biology knows that the chicken must have evolved prior to the chicken egg. Any other debate on the subject is borne of ignorance or misinformation. There is not reason to discuss/debate this topic.

daxflame44
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God. God created a chicken which then lay an egg and the life cycle begins. But if you are an atheist or some Scientology dude mrwalker82's theory is probably correct

BenTheBozer
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I belive due to the evonlutionary process that the chicken was created and thus made the egg.

tomertheking
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But the egg has the mutant genes that was the first's chicken's genes

driejen
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An egg contained the 'first' chicken, but the egg itself is the chicken's predecessor egg so the chicken must have come first. If the chicken's predecessor egg is indistinguishable from a chicken egg, then the question is irrelevant since the egg in question is not specifically a chicken egg but rather just an egg.

Emphasis on 'first' is due to the fact that evolution is a very gradual process, so it is impossible to determine exactly which bird was the first chicken. Pretty much all chickens contain mutations that make them different from other chickens is mostly insignificant ways, yet they are considered chickens because they are not that different. I don't see how this question can be relevant in any realistic context when you cannot even possibly point out the first chicken or the first egg, but if you really must inquire I would have to say the chicken for the above reason.

But the egg has the mutant genes that was the first's chicken's genes
The egg and the chicken are separate, The yolk containing the unfertilised chick is fertilised, then the egg white is put around it, then the egg shell in a kind of assembly line of eggs. The chick itself does not make the egg, the egg is created by the parent and contains nutrients that the parent is giving to the egg to allow for the chick's survival during incubation so the chick making it itself makes no sense at all anyway. And I don't see why the egg needs any genes, once it is made it doesn't need to do complex interactions nor does it regenerate in any form. The egg simply protects the egg and holds nutrients that the chick needs during incubation.
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it was the rock lobster then the chicken then the egg who evolves into a egg did we evolve into a fetus eww just imagen fetuses crawling around on earth

theone99
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Guys there is a thread about this believe it or not, if y'all find it get ready to get a duster.. a swiffer duster

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But if you are an atheist or some Scientology dude mrwalker82's theory is probably correct


Please don't mix Science and Scientology up. Please. One is a collection of data which means "to know", and the other is a religion created by a science fiction author.

Pretty much all chickens contain mutations that make them different from other chickens is mostly insignificant ways, yet they are considered chickens because they are not that different.


Species: A group of animals so similar that they are able to mate and produce fertile offspring. These many mutations in animals are what make up the differences in all of us.

Now for my response. Was it an already-evolved chicken that was first? Or was it the offspring of a differentiating species? One thing is for certain though. You can't just go from one species to another completely-different one; Evolution doesn't work that way. It's gradual. So, in a different perspective, I would have to go with the egg. We have here the two species that mate, and, when hatched, a chicken is born. We cannot say that an already-evolved chicken was first; that would be everything against what we have been arguing about.
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I think it's been solved.

Aaliyah928
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Cool. Thread ended, thanks guys! It's nice to see other peoples take on it, and that mutant gene thing actually is very logical, Thanks for the new view! No new posts please!

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i think it takes a chicken to lay a chicken egg, so therefore the chicken came first. before then it was it's ancestor's egg, so it wouldn't have happened. and evolution happens far too slow to make it that simple, it takes a long time for a new species to be created.

almostsilver
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The egg came first because dinosaurs were laying eggs before chickens existed.

SirNoobalot
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The egg came first because dinosaurs were laying eggs before chickens existed.


note how the title says chicken egg.....
almostsilver
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note how the title says chicken egg..

Oh, didn't notice that.
adios194
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Two chickens, the egg would need an adequate form of heat. Which it couldn't get without a mother chicken. The full grown chickens can reproduce together, and create offspring that are recognized today as a main food category for meat eaters.

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