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SirNoobalot
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is reality real??? can it be confirmed that things can and do actually materially exist, and that everything isn't just like a giant video game like 'The Sims'? how could we ever tell if something was ever telling us to do something, like in a game??? building on that, could there also be no 'free will' if so?

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HahiHa
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-this seems kinda dumb
-Kinda dumb?! This is the dumbest thread ever. Atleast its in the right forum.
-What is the point of this thread?
-Seriously, what sense does this thread make?

You're all right, this thread is dumb and pointless since the moment you started posting.

The answer is no, our minds block out much of what they determine to be unnecessary and so we do not see the world as it truly is.

I think it's not blocking information; our brain is recording only a part of all available information, and only keeping a part of this part, eliminating the useless stuff. Look at my last post on the previous page..
melimouse
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I think it's not blocking information; our brain is recording only a part of all available information, and only keeping a part of this part, eliminating the useless stuff. Look at my last post on the previous page..


This is just playing with words now. I used the term blocking because from our perspective, that is, the final product that our brain communicates with us, it is blocked out. If our brains decide not to record or store certain information then the rest is essentially blocked, at least from or perspective.
melimouse
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at least from or perspective.


*our perspective
Avorne
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Perhaps a better word than block would be filter? Our brains take in all the information we feed to them and then filter out the stuff that is irrelevant - leaving only the 'important' stuff.

HahiHa
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Ok, if you look at it only from our perspective I think you're right. Sorry for cherry picking.

melimouse
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ok then, filter

melimouse
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No problem HahiHa, for all you knew I didn't know what the heck I was talking about, I have a problem with thinking people know exactly what I mean

DoctorHouseNCIS
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Reality is what you perceive it to be

Moegreche
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Reality is what you perceive it to be


Now, there may be plenty of philosophically problematic answers to this question floating around, but this answer one of the most problematic.

I want to give three examples here to show how this can't work. Each should be quite believable, although the last is a pretty rebuttal of your claim.

1) If you've ever taken any psychoactive drugs, then you'll know what I'm talking about. If not, just humor me.
During a "trip" it's fairly common for spacial reasoning to become confused (like the walls seeming to "breathe&quot and many people see "tracers" behind moving objects. If you don't know what tracers are, there should be a feature where you can turn on the tracing feature of your mouse cursor. Then you can literally see what someone who is tripping would see when they move their hand.
Clearly, in this case, what is perceived is not reality.

2) Consider a white room with nothing in it but a blue box. I see the blue box, am under no reality-distorting drugs, and I form the belief that I'm in a room with a blue box. But really, the box is white - there's simply a blue light that's shining brightly on it to give it the appearance of being blue. Once the light is turned off, I can see my mistake.
Still, this is another example where perception does not match up with reality.

3) Finally, a pretty famous example of how the things we perceive are not identical to the things in the real world. Let's say I have a straight stick. We all see it, it looks straight, it's a straight stick.
Now, suppose I half-submerge the stick in water. It will appear to be bent. In other words, we will be perceiving a bent stick.
So, our perception = a bent stick
the reality = a straight stick
a bent stick =/= a straight stick
therefore, reality is not what we perceive.

House is stumping here for a direct realist notion of reality. And the bent stick argument is a famous counterexample to direct realism.

So, now what?
Pr0j3cTxViRuS
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@TheTerminator

Your messing with my head man. That's just like defining the term of 'nothing'.


"Nothing", conceptually speaking, is used to describe the absence of anything. Colloquially, the concept is usually used as a term to indicate the lack of anything relevant or significant.

(:

ZeroComp
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O.o this thread is like thinking to yourself why am I here?

AnaLoGMunKy
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So, now what?


Now... we wait!
Voyageur
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Can't really be proved. But if you see something, feel something, taste something, and hear something. It probably is, in some way... Real.

AnaLoGMunKy
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thats the most retarded question i have ever heard.


How bout this one then. Can Prometheus13 think outside the little box and question everything he knows? :P
Zaork
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Can Prometheus13 think outside the little box and question everything he knows?

A: Not many can. I doubt that 15% of the population have. Based on this completely accurate statistic we can determine that Prometheus13 cannot.
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