ForumsWEPRIs us believeing in God sort of like the Greeks believing in Zeus?

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ManUtd4life096
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I think we can compare the two. Who knows? Maybe in another thousand years, Christianity, Islam, etc. will all be school subjects, sort of like Greek Mythology is?

Is it possible that religion changes drastically over the times?

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TrollFacedAtheist
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Actually, its exactly alike. The Christian god IS Zeus, just combined with a bunch of other gods. The old time Christians cut and pasted from other religions to get there stories.


Too true.

Well I am sure christianity will not die out completely though there aren't as many of us it is impossible for us to die out UNLESS God isn't real though I think that if he wasn't real then we wouldnt have lasted this long.Another thing the day christianity is no more is the day morals go out the door.


lots of religions have sruvived as long (and even longer) then christianity.

With the thing on morals, I almost laughed whenever you said if christians died out morals died out, frankly many christians have poor morals, I personally think either Judaic, or Atheistic people have the best morals.
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I don't think the two can be fairly compared. Christianity is a more peaceful religion (don't blow up, Atheists, I know it's caused a lot of wars). Christianity promotes more peace, equality, and love, whereas Greek mythology, from what I've learned, was more like: "Worship me, give me tribute, or I'll blow you up." - from Zeus.

@DarthLama
I think your comparison makes sense, except for that in some polytheistic religions: there are multiple gods, but yours don't exist. Ex: Hindus don't believe in the God(Jesus Christ, etc.)

benman113
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believing in god is like believing in Alah or any other gods and or group of goods

KingDiamond55
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With the thing on morals, I almost laughed whenever you said if christians died out morals died out, frankly many christians have poor morals, I personally think either Judaic, or Atheistic people have the best morals.


That's kind of unfair, in my opinion. I think that saying Jewish people having better morals than Christians doesn't make sense. I understand what you're saying, though.

Since Christianity is so massive, there are many who just go to Christianity to say, "I'm religious now, I feel better about myself." But in reality, those are the Christians who go to church 0-2 times a year, and really have bad morals. It's much more common to see a devout Jew than a lax Jew, so some would get the impression that they do have better morals.
But I'd say that many devout Christians have just as good morals as any Jew or Atheist.
KingDiamond55
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believing in god is like believing in Alah or any other gods and or group of goods


not really. different religion = different beliefs.
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But those morals tend to be from a book and not from an actual decision made by that person to be moral.

benman113
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not really. different religion = different beliefs.

Most religions with higher powers explain how life came to be so it's the same to me (atheist) it's just people trying to explain how it all happened.
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I think we can compare the two. Who knows? Maybe in another thousand years, Christianity, Islam, etc. will all be school subjects, sort of like Greek Mythology is?


It's possible another religion will rise to replace it, it's also possible the majority of people will eventually do away with feeling they need Gods.

Is it possible that religion changes drastically over the times?


Yes religions do change drastically over time. In fact Christianity is proof of this. Christianity steps from Judaism, Islam and Mormonism stems off from Christianity with all of them having roots in Judaism.
So Christianity, Islam, and Mormonism is just Judaism that has under gone drastic changes over time.

It's a tad militant, but it does make a true point. Which is: yes, religions change.


Militant atheism funny idea.

militant atheist: Your God is a fake cruel joke and your a dumb@$$ for falling for such crap!

militant theist: Believing what we believing, OR WE'LL KILL YOU!

I am just saying without christianity there will be no reason to be good anymore.


Even today there are plenty of people who never heard of Christianity who are good. Not to mention you just said that many of the people on this site have no reason to be good as many aren't Christian.

I see what you're saying 314d1 but without God there would be no such thing as cruel and everything God does or says is right because if like in the Egyptians case he sent the plagues upon them for not letting the his people go and keeping them as slaves.But in your mind I suppose freeing slaves as a bad thing.


It was the Pharaoh who wouldn't set Gods peeps free. Though God mad hardened the Pharaohs heart so he wouldn't in the first place then goes on to harm not the Pharaoh but the Pharaoh's people, innocents by standards in all of this. But even if this wasn't the case the number of non violent methods an all powerful being could use still leaves plagues as a cruel method.

halogunner as your vice presedint I feel obliged to tell you that if God showed himself you would basicly be forced to beleive but God doesn't want to force you he gives you a choice.


God interacts with humans all the time in the Bible, yet free will doesn't seem to be effected there. But even if we were left with no reason not to believe in him we could still choose not to follow that God. So again free will is not effected.

Not only is arguing God not showing himself as a good thing come off as a cop out but it also comes off as an argument that we should remain ignorant suggesting knowledge is a bad thing. (a common theme in the Abrahamic religions BTW)

They knew not to do that.You do realize this is God we're talking about.Did they think they could disobey him and not suffer consequences.


This seems counter intuitive to the whole no messing with free will thing.

Can you take your eyes off of your bible for more than a second?


Considering some of the things he's saying I don't think he is looking at his Bible to much.

With the thing on morals, I almost laughed whenever you said if christians died out morals died out, frankly many christians have poor morals, I personally think either Judaic, or Atheistic people have the best morals.


Good point, personally if I had to turn to any one religion for morals I would go with Wicca. But I don't think I need the religion for the morals.

Monotheism = my god is the only one, there is no room for any other deity than my god thus your god is a false one.
Polythism = there are multiple gods, your gods are not per se untrue ones.


Actually there's evidence Yahweh stemmed from a polytheism.

"Worship me, give me tribute, or I'll blow you up."


Christian God: "Worship me, give me tribute' or burn for eternity in hell."
Yeah I do see the difference.

Most religions with higher powers explain how life came to be so it's the same to me (atheist) it's just people trying to explain how it all happened.


How is being atheist trying to explain how it all happened? All atheism is is a lack of belief in a deity it says nothing about how things happened.
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How is being atheist trying to explain how it all happened? All atheism is is a lack of belief in a deity it says nothing about how things happened.

Sorry I should of said I was an atheist instead of saying that
I was trying to sum up my statement with religions are people trying to explain how it all happened.
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Yeh, all your god would do would be to give people plagues, order there stoning, smite them with lightning bolts,


drown the planet, rain fire, salt pillarify...
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I don't see how this would contradict what I said previously though.


Was just pointing out that it possibly wasn't always a monotheism.
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i think that it is exactly the same its one presence that is higher and another and we belive in one the other belive in the other

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I would like to bring up a point that kind of goes along with the general theme, vampires as my example.

Vampires started out as a story to explain things (don't they all?) and ended up different in each culture, but almost every culture had there own version. Every culture had there own rituals for discovering, distracting, and killing vampires. Every culture had different descriptions of vampires. The belief in vampires caused many people to be killed. Sound familiar?

But my main point is that they have all evolved into a more general idea, steak to the heart to kill, don't have reflections, garlic keeps them away etc, were all inspired by more modern ideas such as Dracula. Dracula was inspired by other vampire books witch was inspired by vampyre books witch... you see my point. The idea of vampires was always around, it has just changed from what the original people wrote. But now a days most people don't believe in vampires.

Religion is the same way. They build there stories off of previous ideas, and add to them, take away from them, and generally change them. The main idea is there, weather it is a big powerful guy in the sky or a corpse that drinks blood, they are both just stories based off stories based of stories...based of an observation that had a false conclusion.

Now tell me this. If your religion is true, then why did its story evolve just like the vampire story? (For a more recent example, the trilogy didn't exist before a bunch of priests had a meeting and decided to use it to explain the different personalities of there god. Those who voted against it were exiled)

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Crhistianity is much more realistic, no matter how unrealistic it is in context to the world today.

Actually, its exactly alike.


Lemme just dig up a facepalm here.... hey numbers can you lend me one?
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Crhistianity is much more realistic, no matter how unrealistic it is in context to the world today.

Actual christianity is as realistic to our modern society as greek mythology was to ancient greek society. But don't forget that christianity as it is now is not the same as it was at it's beginning. It just adapted itself over time; greek mythology didn't.

@314d1 I like your vampire analogy^^ true it is.
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