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DoctorHouseNCIS
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A religion is a belief. Atheists believe there is no God. What do you think?

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greg_greg
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Peasant

uhmmm, you cant really celebrate it like a typical religion, ut i guess you can call it a religion because of its set of beliefs

MageGrayWolf
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Farmer

uhmmm, you cant really celebrate it like a typical religion, ut i guess you can call it a religion because of its set of beliefs


What set of beliefs?
greg_greg
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Peasant

they believe in the denial of Gods existance and that they worship nothing lol, thats it i believe.

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they believe in the denial of Gods existance and that they worship nothing lol, thats it i believe.


This implies there is indeed a God to deny. The closest you can get is a gnostic atheist aka strong atheism who claims to know God does not exist.

Here's a kicker, everyone is an atheist to another's god. Unless you believe in every god.
So the difference between an atheist and a theist is an atheist takes this disbelief one god further.
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Nomad

Here's a kicker, everyone is an atheist to another's god. Unless you believe in every god


haha. i am not a slave to your definition, i believe in no god AND every god..... lol, i know your confused, but before you try to bash me, i will explain.

i indeed believe in a higher power, but it cannot be named. lest we think ourselves knowledgeable enough to even comprehend the name of the being as all powerful as to create the earth/solar system/galaxy/universe. this "accident" as you imply, is far to complex to be an accident, i mean to say, look around you!!!! the odds of this verse simply being sneezed into an existence is not only highly improbable, its ridiculous. if we look at how astoundingly perfect things work together, we would unmistakably be able to see that this system is designed to work so perfectly wonderful with itself that the odds that it was accidental are far more less than the odds that it was created. you can call it what you want, but in-fact, "god" would be an alien. if you look at the definition of alien, a noun or adjective, you would see that alien means foreigner in the best sense, to this country/world. but theoretically god is a foreigner. now why couldn't god be a hyper-intelligent being (or beings) from another planet. Is it that hard to believe, i mean, is it harder to believe than this whole system is an "accident"?
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i indeed believe in a higher power, but it cannot be named. lest we think ourselves knowledgeable enough to even comprehend the name of the being as all powerful as to create the earth/solar system/galaxy/universe.


god is really more of a label then a name. So even if you don't believe this higher power can be named we can still label it accordingly. In this case God; capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshiped as creator and ruler of the universe

this "accident" as you imply, is far to complex to be an accident,


I never implied it to be an "accident".

i mean to say, look around you!!!! the odds of this verse simply being sneezed into an existence is not only highly improbable, its ridiculous.


Are we back to talking about The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy?

if we look at how astoundingly perfect things work together


Things are far from perfect. If all this is designed the designer needs to be fired.

you can call it what you want, but in-fact, "god" would be an alien. if you look at the definition of alien, a noun or adjective, you would see that alien means foreigner in the best sense, to this country/world. but theoretically god is a foreigner. now why couldn't god be a hyper-intelligent being (or beings) from another planet. Is it that hard to believe, i mean, is it harder to believe than this whole system is an "accident"?


Yes technically god would be an alien. However your point of god being an alien from another planet is contradictory to your first statement of god creating the universe. For god to be from another planet he/she/it would have to be a product of this universe.

By the sound of it you've done nothing but constructed your own version of god. Possibly taking elements from the various other gods you have heard about.
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this "accident" as you imply, is far to complex to be an accident, i mean to say, look around you!!!! the odds of this verse simply being sneezed into an existence is not only highly improbable, its ridiculous. if we look at how astoundingly perfect things work together, we would unmistakably be able to see that this system is designed to work so perfectly wonderful with itself that the odds that it was accidental are far more less than the odds that it was created.

The reason why it works so well is because it had time, lots of time, and things evolved together, not separately.. but I would never say that everything is actually working perfectly. It isn't perfect, and if by any chance there really was a designer for all of this, well then he's either an as*hole, a dork, or probably both.
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Nomad

yes and no
yes because the belive that there is no god and no because they do not have faith, so they have 1 out of 2 of the qualities of a religion

HahiHa
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yes because the belive that there is no god

We don't believe there is no god. We lack of belief in a god. That makes a difference.
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Peasant

no, you will have a belief, therefore religion.

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no, you will have a belief, therefore religion.


Didn't we already establish belief alone does not a religion make?
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Peasant

lol, yeah, but you also i guess, pronounce it, like, i guess you have an "anit-religion" cuz youre doing the opposite of believing in something.

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lol, yeah, but you also i guess, pronounce it, like, i guess you have an "anit-religion" cuz youre doing the opposite of believing in something.

We're not doing the opposite of religion, we're no anti-religion dammit.
I'll try to repeat what many people said many times.. look, even theism is not a religion. Theists think there is a god, and that's it. They can be also religious, but don't have to; get what I mean? Theism is no necessary condition for religion. Being religious is living your life in a religious manner, it's about acts, religious acts. Theism alone is not about acts.
Now atheism is a-theism; no theism. Since theism itself has strictly speaking nothing to do with religious acts, atheism has not so either. Atheism is the lack of theism, atheism is the original state before you get taught theism.
After you decide whether you are atheist or theist, you can freely choose to join any religion and partake in their religious social life, or you choose not to and live your life without religion, whether you are theist or atheist.

Did I manage to make the difference clear enough?
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Peasant

lmfaoooo, how annoyed are you with me i knew thatt! i was just being an SD for all the people here who think religion is only about belief

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Let's have a quick lesson hmm?

A- means 'non' as in Atheist (non-theist) or Asexual (Non-sexual)
Anti- means 'opposite of' or 'against' as in Anti-Obama (Against Obama) or Anti-republican (against republicans).

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