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DoctorHouseNCIS
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A religion is a belief. Atheists believe there is no God. What do you think?

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locoace3
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i believe one day we will elect a muffin president can i be religious now pl0x? (/off topic)

valkery
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Of course Atheism is a belief! You would have to be as retarded as a (insert racial profile here) to believe otherwise.

Then again, who wants to take the chance that if, on the very small off chance that there is a "Divine Deity" they will burn in a HeII of some sort.

I am just saying, that if you don't believe in anything, then if there ends up being something, you have screwed yourself over for your whole life. Better believe in something than in nothing at all.

314d1
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Of course Atheism is a belief! You would have to be as retarded as a (insert racial profile here) to believe otherwise.



It is not a belief, it is the lack there off...Apparently, you have to "be as retarded as a creationist" to believe so...

You are speaking of Pascals wager, correct?

That is a horrible wager. Why bet your life on something horrible unlikely? What if your a Christian and the Muslim god is true? What if your a Muslim and the Christian god is true? What if your any religion and any other religion is true? Then you will end up screwed. And you bet your life, witch would really screw you... In the end, its better to NOT believe than to believe in something...
DoctorHouseNCIS
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Definition of atheism: a doctorine or Belief that there is no God.


Now, tell me this! Does a belief automatically constitute a religion???
NoNameC68
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It is not a belief, it is the lack there off...Apparently, you have to "be as retarded as a creationist" to believe so...


It's sort of like saying that a square is a quadrilateral, but a quadrilateral is not necessarily a square.

If you believe that god does not exist, then you also have a lack of belief in god. If you have a lack of belief in god, you may not necessarily believe he doesn't exist.

Regardless, it doesn't matter if atheism is a belief that there is no god or a lack of belief. No matter which one it is, it isn't a religion.

Religion is not simply a belief.

As I mentioned on page 8, theism isn't even a religion.
nevetsthereaper
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exactly,

Religion is not simply a belief in God.



religion, is more, it doesnt need to have a god, or diety, it is a group of people having certain views about the nature of life. without jumping around again, what is your thoughts on that
NoNameC68
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religion, is more, it doesnt need to have a god, or diety, it is a group of people having certain views about the nature of life. without jumping around again, what is your thoughts on that


Sorry, I made a few errors and changed my post.

Religion is not simply a belief. On page 8 I dissected the definition of religion and talked about what I think.
nevetsthereaper
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i guess two people can interperate the same definition in two different ways. so i guess im stuck again, i still think your all as religously nuts as all other religions.

NoNameC68
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i guess two people can interperate the same definition in two different ways. so i guess im stuck again, i still think your all as religously nuts as all other religions.


Some atheists tend to make it their religion to root out the flaws of religion or they make it a religion to convert people into atheists, but that definition of religion is not the definition OP was talking about. Religion in this case refers to total devotion. You can make it a religion to watch porn every night or to annoy your neighbors by throwing shitzues over their fence. Therefore atheism isn't a religion, but the people's devotion to atheism is religious (very serious).

It's super hard to explain, just understand that this definition of religion does not match the one we are debating about. D :
nevetsthereaper
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i get what your saying, but i see no difference in being devoted religiously and being religious.

SirLegendary
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Being one is not believing in anything right? So I don't think it is one at all.

NoNameC68
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being devoted religiously


This is a figure of speech. To do something religiously means to do so with total devotion. In this case, 'religiously' has nothing to do with actual religion or religious beliefs such as the belief in a higher being.

being religious


To be religious is to represent an actual religion.
Paradoxymoron
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This is a figure of speech. To do something religiously means to do so with total devotion. In this case, 'religiously' has nothing to do with actual religion or religious beliefs such as the belief in a higher being.


From my experience the majority of atheists are quiet ones. But I think in America it is a different story. I read a piece about American Atheists (the organisation and the general group) who don't seem to be very good at discussing a contentious issue effectively. For instance, the campaign to come up with a new term for atheists that had less of a negative connotation: the word they came up with was ''Brights''... with ''dims'' being the implied inverse. Maybye they are intelligent. It's just hard to see through all that arrogance, arogance which has made them much more like the organised theist groups/people they oppose.
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but the people's devotion to atheism is religious (very serious).


I'm pretty sure I pointed this out but even this interpretation isn't even true fro most atheists. Seeing as many would stop being atheists if presented with objective evidence of a deity.

the word they came up with was ''Brights''... with ''dims'' being the implied inverse. Maybye they are intelligent. It's just hard to see through all that arrogance, arogance which has made them much more like the organised theist groups/people they oppose.


This term is arrogant and misleading, just because your an atheist doesn't mean your smart. As this term implies.

If you don't want the negative connotation of the word atheist educate people in what the word really means and show your really not a bad person even though you are an atheist.
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Ya I agree being an atheist just means you're A:an intelligint person who believes in atheism because you don't beleive christians have enough scientific evidence to support there statement that God exists and you feel that atheism does or B:You are a unintelligent atheist, you have a sinful life and cannot honestly call yourself a christian because of it.

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