ForumsWEPRDebate: The Freedom to Smoke Tobacco.

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Pertokeyo
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Smoking tobacco is a worldwide pastime.

It stems from the original use of tobacco as a theorised healthy leaf that used to be chewed on for leisure or used as incense in rituals. Today we are all aware of the risks associated with such a plant.

Smoking is a tiresome addiction that provides unusual false satisfaction to the brain and costs individuals thousands of pounds/dollars a year. There is also minor support from research to suggest that second hand smoke also causes severe damage to those who may or may not be willing to inhail it.

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My late mother was a serious smoker. The room where she spent most of her time in slowly turned from a wonderful white to a sludgy yellow. When adding up the cost of the 20+ cigarettes she was smoking each day the maths come to approximately £5 x 365 = £1825. That's the cost of two macs/one jet ski or fifty full priced console games.

Now legislation (with variations around the world) has begun to promote laws to reduce the necessity of non smokers to become exposed to second hand smoke. These laws range from total bans in public places such as the Vatican City to unenforced minor laws like they have in Germany.

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This debate is about whether or not you feel that smoking matters to you, and what conditions should be put on smokers when smoking in public places.

Is it right for the government to draw up and enforce laws to prevent innocent children from being subjected to their parents' smoke in cars, or should the government not get involved because these are human rights?

Are you a smoker? What effect does the biological desire to smoke have on you and your family? How should the law be fair and just for you? Is there enough help and guidance to quit smoking in your area?

Do you think that smoking is dying out on a global scale or do you believe that this legislation will eventually become ineffective?

Answers from many countries are welcome, including any insight into your personal experiences.

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Joe96
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I don't smoke, but there is some legal drug like purple sticky or something. ... I don't know much about that...O! and kids at my school smoke hooka, which is the thing with the hoses...well I have to go to dinner now.

BenTheBozer
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i'm not against smoking heck i'm even known to have a cigar, just i dont want you smoking in my face, and people should not be aloud to smoke around children/public places, girls at work smoke and there pregnet and it makes me sick to my stomach.

Avorne
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Which is why smokers should go outside. Let's face it - if someone starts smoking inside, next to you (or even just in the same room as you), then you're gonna end up having to inhale that smoke.

MRWalker82
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Hey buddy, just remember:

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NoNameC68
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It should be up to the owner of whoever's property you are on. If the owner of a restaurant doesn't mind if their customers smoke, it should be legal for people to smoke in their restaurant REGARDLESS if smoking is bad for you or not.

If smoking is not dangerous enough to be made illegal completely, then it's not dangerous enough to force businesses to ban smoking, even if the business is a bar.

I remember sitting outside watching a demolition derby and people would smoke in the stands. I will fight to protect that right, but I will also turn around and tell them to get the hell away from me and to stop blowing smoke in their children's faces.

Many smokers are assholes. It's not a smoking problem, it's an asshole problem.

crazyrussian97
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Your body is your own property. You have the right to ruin it if you want. I do agree with no-smoking zones though, because I hate inhaling that crap.

glaceonex23
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i hate cigarettes it makes me more asthmatic... >_<

AnaLoGMunKy
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It should be up to the owner of whoever's property you are on. If the owner of a restaurant doesn't mind if their customers smoke, it should be legal for people to smoke in their restaurant REGARDLESS if smoking is bad for you or not.


I agree completely.

We have the smoking ban in full effect in the UK and I have to admit, I like it. But then, as a non tobacco smoker I am clearly bias

I really wish governments would stop enforcing what should be a personal choice on people.
redbedhead
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E-Cigarettes should be enforced that way I wouldn't mind at all. My entire family smoked extremely heavily around me until I was 17 so I developed an asthmatic allergy in cause. E-Cigarettes are safer and they don't bother anyone so I wouldn't mind in that case.

arobegamr
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The fact that it is a person's choice to smoke is irrelevant. What you forget is that secondhand smoke is actually MORE toxic than what is breathed in through the unlit end. That is because the tip of the cigarette has no filter on it, so the toxins are released.

Smoking also irritates athsma, as many people on this thread have pointed out, and my condolences that you have to live with that condition.

Kasic
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I wouldn't care if it was just that person. However, it is not. Whenever someone smokes, it is annoying to everyone around who does not, and they also carry that odor with them where ever they go and in their homes, and the ciggerete butts end up on the street or sidewalks often. It's just a general nuisance, all for those who want to harm themselves by breathing smoke. Honestly, who's idea was it to inhale smoke for &quotleasure"

snowguy13
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I can see it both ways.

From my POV, I hate smoking and believe it should be banned, at the very least, in all public places. It is harmful to all in surrounding areas. One person's issue shouldn't force problems on others.

On the flip side, I can see how people don't want their rights to be restricted. I can agree somewhat with NoNameC68's comment; this would probably force certain areas to become smoker-hubs and others to be more family-frienly.

chitown
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I am not a smoker but there is people in my family who are. But I do think that completely banning smoking is not the answer. It would be like Prohibition and people getting alcohol illegally. I do think that smoking should be banned in public places though to reduce the chance of second hand smoke.

AnaLoGMunKy
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That is because the tip of the cigarette has no filter on it, so the toxins are released.


Cars have no filter either, I honestly think cars are a bigger concern in the 2nd hand smoke arena. Cars and industry.

they also carry that odor with them where ever they go

I hate kissing my g/f after she has had a rollie.
and in their homes, and the ciggerete butts end up on the street or sidewalks often

We could say the same for McDonalds, both of which are an issue of littering, not smoking.
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