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locoace3
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since there really s no topic on whether or not he really exists and created people i decided to make one


start debating... NOW!

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314d1
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I mostly agree with armed_blade, I really doubt the world would be at peace with out religon. You can put two atheist in an in closed space and they will fight over something. People are natraully greedy, paranoid and violent. If you take away religon they'll find some other reason to be just as greedy, paranoid and violent.


Great to tell us what you think, now could you please tell us why you would think this? At least without religion, you have to justify things with logic rather than saying "God wants you to"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that have been highly profitable because it would wrest trade control of that area from the Arabs?


Well they slaughtered the inhabitants, from what I remember, so no it wouldn't. And even if that was the goal, it would be much more profitable to get a closer easier to control and larger city in another country.
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If you take away religon they'll find some other reason to be just as greedy, paranoid and violent.


Simple, simple math. 1+1=2, 1+0=1. You take away a cause, you get less. Religion doesn't provide anything that isn't found anywhere else anyways, aside from the selective things it says are evil for no particular reason.
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Ok on the arab quotes they believe in allah not god so before we complain about the middle east we need to get what religion and god we are speaking about

314d1
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Ok on the arab quotes they believe in allah not god so before we complain about the middle east we need to get what religion and god we are speaking about


...What are you taking about? And besides that, Allah and Yahweh are the same god, the Abrahamic god. So we would really be talking about the same god in any case.

But anyway, the TBG will eat you when you are wrong, a fate worse then any hell. So don't believe in god and you will lose nothing, believe and you could lose everything.
oorah7
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excuse me but with your tbg comments i finally have something against you the question on the table is does god exist and with your praise for the tbg you treat the tbg as a god so in a form you believe in god as much as you dont believe in the jewish, catholic, or any other such god

oorah7
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and by the way i do enjoy your comments it helps me strengthen my faith insted of question it

314d1
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excuse me but with your tbg comments i finally have something against you the question on the table is does god exist and with your praise for the tbg you treat the tbg as a god so in a form you believe in god as much as you dont believe in the jewish, catholic, or any other such god


I don't believe in the TBG. That would get me eaten! I am just using him as a fictional character to make a point, no more than if I was using Santa Clause or Harry Potter. I am simply inventing a way that completely negates PW, which can easily be negated without the TBG. Its just a lot easier to state "What about the TBG?" than to explain that PW is a horrible bet that assumes etc etc. I don't believe in the TBG, Santa Clause, or Harry potter of course.

In the case I am overusing TBG, how about this analogy. Why don't you believe in Santa Clause? Do you really want to give up a chance for magical presents every Christmas?
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Correction via santa i dont believe in the santa that lives at the north pole because there is extreme scientifical proof that he cannot exist one no one can pin point the north pole on the world because it shifts two reindier cant fly and most likely are smart enough not to fly in that weather and there is more and more but i believe there is a bit of santa in each of us the ability to give the ability to share so i could call gods gift of free will santa in a sense.

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I didn't watch the video, but I can smell the BS threw the link. Or would you happen to have a copy of this talisman I can borrow for independent testing in a laboratory setting?


I did watch it and my BS meter is going haywire.
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and by the way i do enjoy your comments it helps me strengthen my faith insted of question it


Then all you've strengthened is your gullibility.
314d1
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Correction via santa i dont believe in the santa that lives at the north pole because there is extreme scientifical proof that he cannot exist


So why do you believe in your god then? Your god isn't in the sky like he was supposed to be, so where is your god now?

two reindier cant fly and most likely are smart enough not to fly in that weather


And donkeys can't talk, but they do in the Bible. Sooooo....

but i believe there is a bit of santa in each of us the ability to give the ability to share so i could call gods gift of free will santa in a sense.


So your god doesn't exist outside of metaphor then? And I thought we stole free will against your god's wishes? Isn't that why we where punished?
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god is not in the sky he is in heaven where no human being can see only souls can visit or see heaven
and you cant steal a GIFT from god he wanted us to use free will so he can love us and we love him without him forcing us for that is not love
and how are you so sure that donkeys cant talk??? animals fear us and attack us at times perhaps of what we did in the begining we are stained with original sin they might not be able to stand us or communicate with us

314d1
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god is not in the sky he is in heaven where no human being can see only souls can visit or see heaven


You do realize that people throughout time thought that your god was literally in the "heavens", as in the sky? Just look at the tower of Babble myth, a big tower almost made it to heaven. So if heaven can't be reached, why did your god punish them?

you cant steal a GIFT from god he wanted us to use free will so he can love us and we love him without him forcing us for that is not love


According to most people, humans got free will once A&E ate the forbidden fruit, which was forbidden and they where punished for it. So if it was a gift, why where they punished?

and how are you so sure that donkeys cant talk??? animals fear us and attack us at times perhaps of what we did in the begining we are stained with original sin they might not be able to stand us or communicate with us


...Are you serious? In this case, how do you know reindeer can't fly? They might just be hiding that power from humans so we wouldn't learn it for thousands of years.
oorah7
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the tower of babble was created to get to heaven it did not almost reach heaven and they were punished for trying to bring god down to their level or trying to reach his
we are punished for the gift because we use it for the wrong reasons such as sex we are to use it for reproduction now there is abortion, contraception, and pornography which is caused by our free will but we can use our free will to say no to the twisted ways of our society or in this case change the channel insted of watching a&e
and about the animals ok fine you get that one i forgot the original arguement so until i find it you win on that stand point

oorah7
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and ill give you the last word im getting tired

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